this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2024
564 points (93.3% liked)
Fuck AI
1450 readers
304 users here now
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
founded 8 months ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I didn't use it for those things but I do use it every day for a multitude of tasks. For myself I use it far more than Google itself.
But these are the things people are complaining about - not AI itself, but the people making it, the reasons that they're making it, and the consequences that that is having on the human condition.
For your example, people don't complain about it making Google obsolete or something, but about the fact that LLMs like ChatGPT are wrong about 53% of the time and often completely make stuff up, and that the companies making and pushing them as a replacement for search engines have collectively shrugged their shoulders and literally said "there's nothing we can do to prevent it" when asked about these "hallucinations" as they call them.
Which is absolutely hilarious to me given how often it hallucinates answers.
I recently tried ChatGPT as a Google alternative. It looked very impressive as it found things based on the slightest of clues. Except that literally everything it found was made up. It "found" a movie quote by Orson Welles that was never quoted. It "found" a song by an artist that said artist never released. It "found" an album by a group released four years before said group's first release.
If you're using ChatGPT as a Google replacement you are being dangerously misinformed by a degenerative "AI" that speaks with the certitude of a techbrodude.
Just ask it to provide links to back up it's answers
Or, you know, I could just search for the links.
All ChatGPT adds to the equation now is burning down a rainforest or ten.
Or possibly it will help us solve the energy issues. It's already lead to some revolutionary discoveries in propulsion and many other areas. It really is far more than something to chat with and to think otherwise is just silly. I use it to to code, brainstorm and developer with. Al systems can process massive amounts of data, recognizing patterns and improving their performance over time. This has helped things like the medical field immensely. Especially with early detection of cancers etc. Trying to be a luddites won't stop it. Might as well embrace and extend it for the betterment of all.
Degenerative AI has not led to any of that propulsion advance, etc. That's "machine learning", not LLM.
Nobody is disputing the value of non-LLM (non-degenerative) AI. It's the degenerative AI that's utterly and fucking useless for anything except burning down rainforests.
for generating filler text and in general making things more formal it can do a good job, yes you do need to review it's output, but that beats needing to write the whole thing in a less hostile tone.
I guess I was the sucker that just learned to write.
Then it's likely you leave the carbon footprint of an 18-wheeler
Oh yeah. Probably more.