Fuck Cars
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
view the rest of the comments
I feel like you’re an asshole if you buy a 22 foot long pickup to take to IKEA.
I don't see it that way. Long vehicles at IKEA, Lowe's, hell even Michael's -- I don't care. Their parking lots are built for that. And the stuff they get.
Long vehicles in a fucking Trader Joes, definitely asshole material.
It really depends on WHERE you park if you are going to park this way. Parking it in the boonies, way way out at the end of the parking lot? Saintly.
Parking it as close to the entrance as possible? Dungeon. 1000 years dungeon.
But generally I agree. This is the purpose of a truck. To haul heavy items that would not fit in a standard or small vehicle. But don't buy a fucking truck for status or for your office job.
How about backing up the truck bed into the entrance doors, so when you get done, you just load it straight into the back of your truck, THEN exit the building, and drive off?
Launched into the sun.
Ikea does have loading zones for this purpose.
Typically you don't PARK in a loading zone.
The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.
Yeah, God forbid he wants to actually take stuff home.
That said, if you've got a huge truck (and I live in the country and work blue collar so I get it, sometimes you need one), have a small car too. Trucks aren't cheap, you can afford a Civic for the city.
I’m sure lots of people have stories about getting huge loads home from IKEA in a tiny car.
I once got two 10’ tall wardrobes and a matching dresser home in a Volkswagen.
You’d be amazed what I can get in the back of my 2008 Mini.
I am this person. Packing half a house of furnishings into a Mitsubishi Mirage and then driving like 90 miles back to my house.
I have transported a 7 foot long TV entertainment stand from ikea in my Mustang.
When I bought my Miata, it came with a small utility trailer. I've used that trailer to transport home an 8' tall, 4' wide, solid wood pantry cabinet -- not flat-pack; a custom-built, very heavy antique. Now, I'm sad to say I didn't actually use the Miata to tow it in that instance (I think I used my old 4Runner instead), but the point is I could have, and it would've worked.
For shopping at Trader Joe's while they're trying to dissolve the NLRB, yes, also the truck thing
What happened to them? I remember back in the day, they were the place where employees from other unionized supermarkets aspired to work, and when they got there, they were happy as clams and in it for the long haul.
They got bought out, so they no longer have the same ethics.
IKEA started as a furniture shipping company (thus the flat packages and the warehouse aesthetic) and many furniture companies like IKEA still ship to your doorstep or beyond often for a similar or better price compared to what individual transport costs.
there is also value in seeing and testing a variety of products in person.
yes, the sane way to buy furniture from Ikea is to visit the showroom to look at everything in-person, and then give them your address for delivery of anything very large.
Bad faith: "Are you really transporting those products back and forth to test?"
~~Good~~ Better faith: Seeing and testing furniture doesn't imply not using shipping.
Speculation: For many, use value of products seem less important compared to short-term novelty value, i.e. owning over using. Celebrating ownership might require immediate access regardless of location, showing ability to HAUL the products then displays further power.
But they're not only driving to Ikea. They're on our roads and streets and pedestrians and cyclists.
You think this is just his ikea vehicle?
Please explain how taking a large vehicle to a furniture store makes you an asshole.
True heroes do this.
Good to see JD Vance take this girls for a ride.
Fantastic. I couldn't make out what was in between the couches at first and then realized it's a crt/plasma big screen that probably weighs 400lbs. The couches are held at the bottom though by one rope so looks good. Can't imagine anything going wrong.
Good old Louisiana
If you have a 22 foot long truck, you should understand that normal infrastructure is not built for you. Either park way at the back of the lot where you’re not inconveniencing people, or on the street.
No one said this guy wasn't parked at the back of the lot.
Ikeas have super large parking spots, they have parking spots for big vehicles and buses. If your car can't fit there, you bought the biggest asshole car in the universe
Because its too long to park without sticking out into traffic?
Like I don't care what you're using it for, if you cannot park it properly, then don't take buy it or at least don't take it with you.
Most vans and pickups aren't even that long so it's not even as if it's necessitates being that long either.
I don't think ikea even sells furniture that requires such gigantic vehicles in the first place.
That said, furniture is an excellent example of why you could just drive a normal vehicle, a bicycle or a bus to go windowshopping and later have the new furniture delivered to your doorstep by a specialised company and/or vehicle or rent a specialised vehicle for the odd occasion. The cost for society will actually be a damn lot lower.
Dodge ram.
Statistically speaking they also have a DUI.
You think taking a large bedded vehicle to a furniture store is asshole behavior? Well shit, I hope I can fit this entire bedroom set in my car... 🤦♂️
If it's from Ikea, I can probably fit an entire bedroom worth of furniture into my two door Honda civic.
Everything they make is flat packed, and you have to assemble it into it's 3D form after purchase.
I can stack so many of those Ikea items in my tiny shitbox.
you know they deliver, right?
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mercedes-benz-vito-2014-van-lwb-vs-dodge-ram-2010-pickup-2500-crew-cab-4wd/
One of those would be better at IKEA
And before anyone says the Vito isn't available in the US - it is, it's just called the Metris. And if you get the passenger variant, you can get 8 people in there.
So you volunteer to be behind him on the freeway as he brings home an entertainment center, a quadruple order of meatballs, and a set of bunk beds piled out the back of his Honda Civic? Ikea is one of the most logical places to drive the big truck.
You can fit that in a normal pickup. I don’t think IKEA sells anything that requires a 22 foot long pickup. Also, who buys entertainment centers and bunk beds on the reg?
If you’re going to buy furniture surely you’d need something bigger if you want to take it home yourself?
It's Ikea, king of the flat-pack. You could fit literally an entire room's worth of Ikea furniture in a subcompact hatchback, depending on which pieces you buy.
(Okay so that's on top of a tiny car, not in it, but you get the idea.)
I’ve bought tons of furniture and had no problem at all with my 16 foot long truck that fits in one parking space. I don’t think IKEA sells anything that wouldn’t fit in my truck.
Is there such a thing as a 22ft long truck? I sure as fuck hope not and now I'm afraid to look it up. My guess is they were towing a trailer.
Dodge Ram can be 21’+
It also implies, statistically speaking, they have a DUI.