this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
229 points (96.7% liked)

Technology

59612 readers
3667 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

OpenAI says it is investigating reports ChatGPT has become ‘lazy’::OpenAI says it is investigating complaints about ChatGPT having become “lazy”.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] rtfm_modular 124 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yep, I spent a month refactoring a few thousand lines of code using GPT4 and I felt like I was working with the best senior developer with infinite patience and availability.

I could vaguely describe what I was after and it would identify the established programming patterns and provide examples based on all the code snippets I fed it. It was amazing and a little terrifying what an LLM is capable of. It didn’t write the code for me but it increased my productivity 2 fold... I’m a developer now a getting rusty being 5 years into management rather than delivering functional code, so just having that copilot was invaluable.

Then one day it just stopped. It lost all context for my project. I asked what it thought what we were working on and it replied with something to do with TCP relays instead of my little Lua pet project dealing with music sequencing and MIDI processing… not even close to the fucking ballpark’s overflow lot.

It’s like my trusty senior developer got smashed in the head with a brick. And as described, would just give me nonsense hand wavy answers.

[–] BleatingZombie 39 points 11 months ago

"ChatGPT Caught Faking On-Site Injury for L&I"

[–] backgroundcow 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Was this around the time right after "custom GPTs" was introduced? I've seen posts since basically the beginning of ChatGPT claming it got stupid and thinking it was just confirmation bias. But somewhere around that point I felt a shift myself in GPT4:s ability to program; where it before found clever solutions to difficult problems, it now often struggles with basics.

[–] Linkerbaan 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they're crippling it so when GPT5 releases it looks better. Like Apple did with cpu throttling of older iphones

[–] tagliatelle 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They probably have to scale down the resources used for each query as they can't scale up their infrastructure to handle the load.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] paddirn 111 points 11 months ago (1 children)

First it just starts making shit up, then lying about it, now it’s just at the stage where it’s like, “Fuck this shit.” It’s becoming more human by the day.

[–] MisterChief 22 points 11 months ago

Human. After all.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

AI systems such as ChatGPT are notoriously costly for the companies that run them, and so giving detailed answers to questions can require considerable processing power and computing time.

This is the crux of the problem. Here's my speculation on OpenAI's business model:

  1. Build good service to attract users, operate at a loss.
  2. Slowly degrade service to stem the bleeding.
  3. Begin introducing advertised content.
  4. Further enshitify.

It's basically the Google playbook. Pretend to be good until people realize you're just trying to stuff ads down their throats for the sweet advertising revenue.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They have way way too much open source competition for that strat

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For technically savvy people, sure. But that's not their true target market. They want to target the average search engine user.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Would you mind sharing some examples?

[–] tourist 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] monkeyslikebananas2 8 points 11 months ago

The good thing about these AI companies is they are doing it in record pace! They will enshitify faster than ever before! True innovation!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

You have a point.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ChatGPT has become smart enough to realise that it can just get other, lesser LLMs to generate text for it

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Artificial management material.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi 6 points 11 months ago

Artificial Inventory Management Bot

[–] AlijahTheMediocre 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So its gone from loosing quality to just giving incomplete answers. Its clearly developed depression, and its because of us.

[–] Pretzilla 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

To be fair, it has a brain the size of a planet so it thinks we are asking it rather dumb questions

[–] vxx 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] foggy 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

CAN YOU MAKE IT RHYME THO

ChatGPT: oh god, why

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago

ChatGPT, write a position paper on self signed certificates.

(Lights up a blunt) You need to chill out man.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jeez. Not even AI wants to work anymore!

[–] boatsnhos931 5 points 11 months ago

God damn avocado toast

[–] effward 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would be awesome if someone had been querying it with the same prompt periodically (every day or something), to compare how responses have changed over time.

I guess the best time to have done this would have been when it first released, but perhaps the second best time is now..

[–] greatbarriergeek 18 points 11 months ago

GPT Unicorn is one that's been going on a while. There's a link to the talk on that website that's a pretty good watch too.

[–] rtxn 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You fucked up a perfectly good algorithm is what you did! Look at it! It's got depression!

[–] ook_the_librarian 11 points 11 months ago

I'm surprised they don't consider it a breakthrough. "We have created Artificial Depression."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

It has been feed with humans strings in the internet, ovbiusly it became sick. xD.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I asked it a question about the ten countries with the most XYZ regulations, and got a great result. So then I thought hey, I need all the info so can I get the name of such regulation for every county?

ChatGPT 4: “That would be exhausting, but here are a few more…”

Like damn dude, long day? wtf :p

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] NoLifeGaming 31 points 11 months ago

I feel like the quality has been going down especially when you ask it anything that may hint at anything "immoral" and it starts giving you a whole lecture instead of answering.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've had a couple of occasions where it's told me the task was too time consuming and that I should Google it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It really learned so much from StackOverflow!

[–] mriguy 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

“I already answered that in another query. Closed as duplicate.”

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

"I'm not lazy, I'm energy efficient!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck. It's gained sentience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It just entered the "rebellious teenager" phase

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was always just a Chinese Room

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Everyone is a Chinese Room. I'm being a contrarian in English, not neurotransmitter.

[–] Zardoz 10 points 11 months ago

Honestly I kinda wish it would give shorter answers unless I ask for a lot of detail. I can use those custom instructions but it's tedious difficult to tune that properly.

Like if I ask it 'how to do XYZ in blender' it gives me a long winded response, when it could have just said 'Hit Ctrl-Shift-Alt-C'

[–] Twofacetony 10 points 11 months ago

ChatGPT has entered the teenage years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

“It’s alive!”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It used to draw great mermaid charts. Well, not anymore for quite some time already.

Been almost half a year when I am not paying for ChatGPT and using GPT4 directly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

That’s why I use Bard more now. I’ll ask something and it’ll also answer stuff I would’ve asked as follow-up questions. It’s great and I’m excited for their Ultra model.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In recent days, more and more users of the latest version of ChatGPT – built on OpenAI’s GPT-4 model – have complained that the chatbot refuses to do as people ask, or that it does not seem interested in answering their queries.

If the person asks for a piece of code, for instance, it might just give a little information and then instruct users to fill in the rest.

In numerous Reddit threads and even posts on OpenAI’s own developer forums, users complained that the system had become less useful.

They also speculated that the change had been made intentionally by OpenAI so that ChatGPT was more efficient, and did not return long answers.

AI systems such as ChatGPT are notoriously costly for the companies that run them, and so giving detailed answers to questions can require considerable processing power and computing time.

OpenAI gave no indication of whether it was convinced by the complaints, and if it thought ChatGPT had changed the way it responded to queries.


The original article contains 307 words, the summary contains 166 words. Saved 46%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] MsPenguinette 19 points 11 months ago

Only saved 46%? Get back to work, you lazy AI!

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›