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[–] [email protected] 253 points 11 months ago (7 children)

That's not what Grandfathered means. Basically, original subscribers are being forced onto a new contract.

[–] LilDumpy 60 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Ya. I was originally a Google Play music subscriber which got turned into YouTube music, for $9.99usd. Now they're increasing the cost by like $4 after December. So I moved to the spotify family plan and now I share with my love ones for only a little bit more than the new YT price.

YT music was turning to sit though. It would always play music video audio with long ass shitty intros when the studio album music existed in their catalog. Even with the music video option turned to off.

[–] Stovetop 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I fell into the same situation. I had a YouTube Music family plan that they told me was no longer grandfathered in, so I also switched to Spotify and have been happy with it. In my case, though, I lucked out because I only needed to keep one other person on the plan with me, so I went with the duo plan instead of the family plan and ended up saving money in the end.

If Google wants me back they can offer ad-free YouTube for $2/mo and that'll be back as it was. That's really the only thing I still miss, because god knows the music player itself wasn't great.

[–] LilDumpy 11 points 11 months ago

Ya. This was my last straw. Figured I'd give them until the end of the original 9.99. So far the transition to Spotify has been good.

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[–] NewNewAccount 38 points 11 months ago

Grandfathered on the sense that the price increase was delayed compared to new subscribers. They were temporarily grandfathered in at their old rate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Thank you. I was thoroughly confused by this title and the article’s use of “grandfathered”.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Maybe It should say grandfathered you tube users are to be estranged.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the ublock origin experience is cheaper

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

People are paying $23 for this???

Honestly shocked.

And it's Google, so you know they are going to keep raising prices, probably adding some ads also in the near future. And of course selling your behavior to advertisers as well, that's a given.

[–] konalt 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just curious: Where in the article does it say $23? It says $13.99, so I'm wondering if it was a typo.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

They may be confusing it with the family plan? Which is $23 for up to 5 people, which imo is a pretty good deal if you know 4 other people to go in on it.

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[–] CrayonRosary 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That's the family plan. The individual price is $13.99. Absolutely worth it to me. 10/10, would shill again. I watch almost exclusively on Apple TV, so unless I had a DNS ad blocker, I would see ads. And even those will eventually be detected and blocked, I'm sure. This is how much I've consumed since signing up in August:

I love supporting the creators of the excellent science and math content I subscribe to. Plus I watch a ton of stupid Tim & Eric sketches, SNL sketches, kitten videos and such. I couldn't imagine seeing an ad for every 1:00 video!

Presented with a choice of paying or seeing ads, imma pay. The price is less than one movie ticket a month.

[–] garretble 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I’ll upvote you back up.

I’m the same way. I use YT on my AppleTV, and I’m an adult with money so $14 isn’t that bad. That’s basically one double quarter pounder meal these days.

Do I want to see the price increase? Of course not. But I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.

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[–] RQG 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Per year or per month? I'm afraid to look.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago
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[–] flamehenry 61 points 11 months ago (4 children)

YouTube have worked really hard this year to help people balance their media consumption with real life.

Everytime I am confronted with another irritating YouTube advert I close the App and say "Thanks YouTube. You are right, I didn't need to watch a detailed unboxing review for a product I neither want, nor need to know exists. I will do something in the real world and try you again in an hour"

I now find myself thinking twice before even opening the App.

Even better on my PC, because I use AdBlockers, YouTube doesn't even let me waste my time, even when I want to.

Truly, Do No Evil

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (1 children)

revanced is still $0/month

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Mojojojo1993 52 points 11 months ago

Not grandfathered then is it.

[–] remer 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I was grandfathered in at the announcement Google Play Music All Access price of $7.99. They better not raise it. They said during the announcement they would never raise the price for those that signed up then.

Edit: Class action anyone?

[–] automattable 13 points 11 months ago

I’m in this exact same boat. I also remember them saying they’d never raise the price on us. I imagine their defense will be something about how GPM doesn’t exist anymore and YouTube premium wasn’t part of that offer or something. It’s still bullshit but I can’t imagine we’ll win.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Oh bullshit. I've been on that 7.99 since Google play music all access first launched. They said it was a permanent 7.99 if you signed up that first month it launched. Guess I'm moving services or going back to piracy.

[–] cm0002 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Your account might be exempted, because that's an old old deal, pretty sure "grandfathered" in this case are people who've signed up like the last couple years lmao

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

The article mentions 7.99 prices specifically.

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[–] xarexyouxmadx 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

This is disappointing. I was thinking of subscribing since I heard content creators got paid more per premium view, and $10 didn't seem like a bad price. ~~But if this is the second price hike in a single year, that definitely gives me pause.~~

This is not the second price increase in a year. This was a misunderstanding on my part. I'm still uncertain on the $14 price point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Youtube will never give their content producers a fair payout. Just get Nebula.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (21 children)

It's cheaper for me to just bump up my Adguard DNS subscription on my home router. Though I've only done limited testing to see how efficient it handles YT ads. (so far seems to work).

Honestly, the $3 CAD I spend on Adguard DNS through my router has been incredible. I'm flabbergasted when I connect to someone else's Wi-Fi and see what the Internet looks like outside my door walls.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are you speaking about Adguard Home? That's free, if you're talking about their premium DNS, there are free alternatives with ad-blocking.

You can't block Youtube ads via DNS for quite some years now.

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[–] Linkerbaan 20 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Revanced is a bit of a hassle to install but really worth it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (27 children)

Welcome to the club, I was on the $14.99 Family Premium from YT Red/GPM. I left in a fit to Spotify, but crawled back since I just do not get along with Spotify. It was quite an increase to $22.99, but I literally watch YT as my main source of entertainment, and listen to YT music via Android Auto in my car, as well as through the house all the time. So I am getting a lot of use out of it. but I am not sure I could stomach another increase anytime soon.

[–] Weslee 17 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Jesus $23?? No thank you! Spotify and FreeTube is good enough for me 😅

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It went from 10 to 20 on me. Considering all I lost (YT red premium content, google play music, etc) I just canceled then enabled a single user free account I get via Google fi. With money saved, bought family a spotify family plan

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] disconnectikacio 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Dont pay. -In browser: https://docs.invidious.io/instances/ ,OR adblock origin. -Androidon newpipe: https://newpipe.net/ -Android tv smarttube https://smarttubeapp.github.io/ ;)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

I think you meant uBlock Origin? Also, if you use Firefox on Android, it does support extensions so you can use uBlock Origin too.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Just get a web browser that can ad block?

[–] blahsay 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Yoz 11 points 11 months ago (12 children)

How much is it now and how much is the increase?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Noooo.

Welp, time to go to Vanced now.

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