275
US breaks record for most mass shootings in single year after weekend murders
(www.theguardian.com)
The USA proving it’s still number 1…. At murders?
this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2023
275 points (95.1% liked)
News
23644 readers
4200 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
We did it! Good job everyone.
mass murders
YEAH!!! AMERICA NUMBER ONE BABY!!!!! UNDEFEATED!!!!!!!
Not a shock knowing the shootings in USA. No politician wants to change these gun issues so this will continue.
Excuse me, NO politician? Not Lucy McBath (D-Ga) who literally ran on gun control to flip her seat after her 17 yo son was shot to death by a white man over a noise complaint? Not "yes I will take your guns" Beto ORourke? Not literally-survived-being-shot -in-the-face Gabby Giffords?
You completely undermine these anti-gun politicians & the work they do when you deny they even exist.
No politician wants to change these gun issues so this will continue.
Because they know that to try would be political suicide. So much of the US population fetishizes gun ownership and makes it a corner stone of their personality that it is basically impossible to change.
I don't think it's even because of that. About 70% of Americans support measures like psychiatric evaluations or waiting periods, maybe even more. NRA is also not that powerful as a lobbyist, most politicians would be fine without it's support. The only issue is that it would require some actual work and they wouldn't gain anything from it and American politicians simply aren't used to doing anything useful anymore.
Yeah but if that was the case then good laws would have been introduced in the past.
There were. Last example I can think of was Obamacare. It was far from true reform but it did help a lot of people. Before that politicians did introduce social security, a lot of civil rights, some environmental policies and so on. It's not all the laws you have today were introduces 200 years ago. And if you mean gun laws specifically I simply think it wasn't such a big issue back then. It's almost like gun issue in US started growing as politics got taken over by corporations and the general decline began.
I guess it's time for some political suicide oh about forever ago
Even if a law was passed it would be repealed as soon as a new party was in power or nullified by the supreme court due to the 2nd amendment.
The 2nd amendment needs to change and that is now impossible.
The US founding fathers recognised that the constitution would need to be constantly updated as times changed but it has become a holy document and religious text for the cult of USA: The Greatest Country on Earth!!!.
Multiple other countries have reached the point with their own mass shootings and said enough is enough and restricted firearms. But any outside example is rejected in the USA because the USA is different because (insert trite reason).
Even if a law was passed it would be repealed as soon as a new party was in power
Please stop repeating that. In every democracy in the world the governing parties change every couple of years and they do not simply repeal all the laws passed by the previous government. This is just a stupid excuse used by US parties no to do anything. Why people believe it is beyond me.
2nd amendment is fine, it's the first half of it that's conveniently ignored and no one seems to care.
The second half of your sentence shows the first half is false.
BS, there are plenty of federal politicians who promote gun control, and there are even more state politicians who support it, as evidenced by the 3 states (CO, WA, MD) who passed gun control measures in 2023 alone .
When you say "no one's doing this & never will", you're completely undermine the people who literally are doing this right now.
Will, you see they need their guns and they can't possibly have any coherent gun laws because of an old piece of paper written hundreds of years ago. It all makes perfect sense and isn't in any way stupid at all.
The law was made back when war was conducted by everyone standing in a field and shooting in the approximate direction of the opposing force, and eventually hitting someone. Just maybe the constitution is out of date now? Just a radical thought.
Workd record holder for another year.
Is there a record for how many consecutive years a country had held this record?
I mean... when no one else is competing, how hard is it to keep breaking your own records?
This is the world series all over again.
The US plays by its own rules
If you pay Guiness enough, there can be.
I say we do it right, if we're going to do it.
It has nothing to do with guns... amirite?
If that were true, there would be no reason for Iran not to have nuclear weapons right.
It's people who kill after all. The weapons have nothing to do with it.
Thats what freedom looks like you primitive commies!
They are counting the stabbing in NY as a mass shooting?
The article uses the term “mass killing”, so no.
Right, but. In the article they state
"A series of murders over the weekend have propelled the United States to a grisly new record: the most recorded mass shootings in a year"
Including the stabbing which they then refer to as a mass killing. I'm not arguing the point of the article. Its just misleading.
Two attacks on Sunday occurring within a couple of hours of each other in Texas and Washington state were the year’s 37th and 38th mass shootings.
The stabbing is separate and unrelated.
We've had more than 38 in my county alone. But that's why they conflate mass shooting and mass killing.
It’s slightly confusing but is explained in the article that all mass shooting are mass killings but not all mass killings are shootings, which of course makes sense.
Nope, there are 38 mass shootings which are a record for mass shootings. Additionally the guardian mentions mass stabbings, usually a pro-gun argument.
The WP article linked in the Guardian article mentions 38 mass shootings and has no reference to stabbings. In the infographic for every incident it mentions a shooter specifically, not a perpetrator or attacker.
Your comment is misleading, not the article.
Why would I be talking about the washington post article? Im talking about the stabbing mentioned in the article of this thread.
Because it's linked as a source in the article when the shootings are mentioned.
But indeed it is clear even from just the Guardian article that the 37th and 38th mass shootings of this year broke the record of 36 mass shootings. All this before any stabbing or overall mass killing is mentioned.
None of the articles are misleading, your comments are, I guess purposely.
Correct. The whole purpose of my comments were to mislead you. Specifically. I hope you have a good rest of your day even though you suffered from my comments.
Nowhere did I insinuate you were trying to mislead me specifically. That's also misleading.
Have a good night.
No, it's listed in the article as a mass killing, not shooting.
Another attack occurred on Sunday in New York City, when a 38-year-old man stabbed four of his relatives – including two children – as well as another woman and two police officers before they shot him. That was the country’s 41st mass killing of 2023