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I know exactly what this feels like.
I either get to enjoy eating and life in general, but feel like my body isn't big and muscular enough to feel like a confident man or work out all the time but stop eating what makes me happy and in general not enjoy meals.
Media constantly espouses body positivity for women, but men are either ripped or obese. There's no normal, and it makes men feel like they're not good enough.
Body positivity has been ignoring men for way too long.
Embrace dad bod, brother.
Dad bod doesn't necessarily mean overweight with a beer gut. But it does mean that you don't have time to go to the gym to be sculpted for aesthetics. Still plenty of strength and masculinity in it, however.
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I was watching 'The Getaway' with Steve McQueen a few weeks ago. At the time the movie was made, Steve was one of Hollywood's top action heroes. When he took his shirt off I thought how skinny he looked. I know that the Marvel heroes work out for months to get the 'superhero' body, but I still made the comparison.
Another story I heard. A friend of mine wanted to buy his nephew the same Luke Skywalker action figure he'd played with as a child. The original toy looked like a skinny farm boy, and the new one had Luke looking like a body builder.
The x men series is a clear example. Look at Hugh Jackman Wolverine in the original movie compared to the newer ones. In the original he was lean, and in shape but not super muscular or anything. By the Wolverine he's a body building monster
Look at some old movies. Buster Crabbe [Flash Gordon] and Johnny Weissmuller [Tarzan] were both Olympic athletes. Back in the day, they were the peak of manly developement; today they'd be henchmen at best.
Go back to antiquity. Today's action heroes look like henchmen compared to an average statue of Zeus.
That's actually because Jackman was cast very late (it was supposed to be Dougray Scott originally), so he didn't have time to bulk up to superhero physique. X-Men 2's Wolverine is the form Jackman aimed for originally, although he also got even bulkier und more bodybuilder-y later on, like in Days of Future Past.
The lengths they go to today are insane. Like, on top of sort of obsessive body building they're also dehydrating themselves before the bare chest scene for extra definition or some shit. Seems unhealthy all around.
Not to mention the steroids they take while claiming they're natural.
Manatomy Podcast comes to mind when reading this.
At first glance the example of Men's Health magazine doesn't seem to have changed over the years which is sad.
Robert Evans recently read some old men’s pulp magazines from like the 50s on Behind the Bastards and it’s really crazy how similar the way they advertise to men then and now are
Was this the professional wrestling episodes?
Actually no the Vince episodes were way too full on their own already
Didn't know about that podcast. Thanks for sharing the link.
I can see that. The strongest people I know don't look like bodybuilders. There is anexpectations of beauty in it.
Yeah world record powerlifters have the longshoreman body type not the bodybuilder body type. But that’s also not a healthy body expectation. Reasonably fit is what the standard body expectations should be for most people.
Fellas. Go outside.
Potentially stupid question, but what's the difference between muscle dysmorphia and regular body dysmorphia?
Muscle dysmorphia is just a more specific term. Disordered perception of muscle mass, as opposed to more general body size/shape.
edit: Yea alright, I get it. That was rude.
Updoot for reflecting :-)
But was it honest?
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