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Texas was found to be the state with the fewest personal freedoms, according to the Cato Institute's new Freedom Index.

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[–] Gazumi 158 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And they may be quite determined to give those last few freedoms away in a bid to defend themselves from the imaginary threats.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

They will trade their freedom in for imaginary freedom

[–] eugene171 155 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ex-Texan here.

It's a wonderful place to be a straight, white, Christian, middle-class male.

For every one of those things you are not, it gets worse.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about rich instead of middle?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Even better. It's only when you're rich that you actually pay less taxes in Texas. See how they're anagrams?

[–] [email protected] 139 points 11 months ago (4 children)

As a persone who lives in TX, i can confirm anyone who has a " Don't Tred on Me" or a "Come and Take It" sticker, flag, or shirt likes to be treaded on and will willingly give it up

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Luke 10:19:

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Really piss them off, lol.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Lol if you think that'd piss them off, then you don't know Christians. They won't even see the irony (or if they do, they won't care), they'll just latch onto the Bible verse and tell you how it empowers them against people like you who try to test their faith.

[–] Salamendacious 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They're secretly hoping some liberal dominatrix walks on them and beats them up until they give up their guns?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

"Tread on me, Daddy," and "Come and take it out on my ass"

[–] AngryCommieKender 11 points 11 months ago

Go up to them and quote Luke 10:19 at them, but make them look it up.

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Cato institute dissing Texas is actually hilarious. Republican infighting is the gift that keeps on giving.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Never trust anything the Cato Institute says, as a rule. It's almost certainly garbage.

[–] SpaceNoodle 91 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but when a conservative propaganda machine claims that even Texas is too authoritarian ...

[–] surewhynotlem 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Then they just have an agenda to say those freedoms were taken by Democrats, and that you really need more freedom via deregulation.

First you sell the problem, then you sell your solution.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Even for Republicans that's an incredibly bold move. Democrats have been the minority party in Texas for over a decade.

[–] surewhynotlem 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The enemy is both weak and a strong threat.

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[–] LEDZeppelin 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Came here to say this.

Ironically, Cato Institute is bankrolled by Koch brothers, the architects of modern republican party

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Is it ironic though? Seems exactly what I would expect.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yep. We can look at the source to see what their metrics are. They have economic freedoms and personal freedoms.

The metrics for economic freedoms they used are fiscal and regulatory freedom. Focusing on fiscal, that branches down into: state taxes, local taxes, government spending, government employment, government debt, and "cash & security assets." It's obviously a libertarian based definition of "economic freedom", wherein they feel someone with $5 to their name and no obligations is more economically free than someone with $100 to their name and $10 of taxes. Completely illogical bullshit.

But you can look at it and see that a lot of them are incoherent or intentionally overlapping even if you buy into their base ideology.

Why are government spending and government taxation separate entries? Is someone with low taxes less "economically free" because their government budget is able to afford to be larger anyway? Why does government employment factor in at all? Surely — especially after you've accounted for any budgetary, taxation, and debt based impacts — there's nothing inherent to government employees existing that can be argued to impact someone's "economic freedom." Even within their base libertarian fantasies, the overlap and design of the categories will specifically make a richer, but otherwise completely identical, state less free than a poorer copy-cat.

The rest of their categories are even more bullshit. They have an entire section under personal freedom categorized as "Travel Freedom." A sane person might define that as both the right and the capacity to travel places. They define it as "This category includes seat belt laws, helmet laws, mandatory insurance coverage, and cell phone usage laws." So a state is less "free" according to Cato if it makes it illegal to text while driving.

tl;dr it's all libertarian bullshit.

[–] Salamendacious 23 points 11 months ago

I agree. I thought it was noteworthy that Cato put Texas last. They are not a neutral news source. But they did put Texas last in personal freedoms.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (12 children)

For real freedom, move to Scandinavia.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Cant speak to freedoms, but I've never witnessed a more intense social pressure to confirm to social norms than I did there

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Where’s Japan sit in the list?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 29 points 11 months ago

But they let you have guns, cheap oil, and the premise you should mock other states for not being Texas.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In the overall freedom rankings, New Hampshire rated number 1, followed by Florida and South Dakota, while New York was dead last, with Hawaii 49th and California 48th. For personal freedoms, Nevada came tops followed by Arizona and Maine, with Wyoming 48th and Idaho 49th

Florida ranks number 2 for overall freedom? Not sure how much I trust the Cato institute’s methodology.

[–] Salamendacious 35 points 11 months ago

Cato is a very conservative\ libertarian group. The fact that they put Texas last for personal freedom seemed noteworthy to me.

They are 100% biased.

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[–] Chickenstalker 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's like raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiinnnn...

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

No shit, being able to own as many guns as you want but having a militarized police force that'll try to figure out how many teeth you can swallow if you don't pray to them isn't actually freedom.

[–] CharlesDarwin 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But don't they have the gunz and the low taxez?!!!?

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Texas has one of the highest tax rates for poorer people last i hear

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yup. When you take into account all state taxes, including their very high property taxes, you pay less taxes in California than texas if you make less than 660k.

After 660k? You save tons and tons of money. There is a reason a bunch of billionares have moved their "permanent residence" to the state

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[–] BilboBargains 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

All that sweet, sweet economic freedom causes Fled Cruz.

[–] fne8w2ah 15 points 11 months ago

Gun owners and WASPs: the irony!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Land of the oppressed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

It's not too surprising given that Texas was founded as a slave republic.

I suppose things might be mitigated, though:

women who need abortions can go to New Mexico for such (that and more regular use of pregnancy tests).

maybe get a driver's license out of state and use it in Texas—I also wonder if one can use fake fingerprints.

maybe have open-carry marijuana protests on Hitler's Birthday.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I drove from Houston to San Diego once. It was 26 hours and a ton of it was within Texas. You can drive for 8 or more hours and easily still be in Texas.

Also, out-of-state license whilst residing in Texas is illegal. You only have so many days (14, IIRC) to change your address on your Texas license if moving within Texas. I got hit with that at a traffic stop.

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