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Spoofing Chrome magically makes this problem go away. The slow down is 5 secs according to the video.

Update 1: Safari faces the same treatment

Update 2: Google confirms 5 sec delays for ad-block user

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[–] undeadfoodsnob 163 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I dont believe this will have the desired affect Google thinks it will. I, personally, will never buy Premium or switch to Chrome without an AD block. If anything, I will just download via linux or just not watch Youtube anymore.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

That's the fucking spirit. Here, I'm joining you. Fuck Google.

[–] doink 37 points 1 year ago

I have been a premium user for years. Mostly because I was using Google music before. With all this crap they are pulling, I cancelled. I cannot support this anymore.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Ever since I discovered Piped and LibreTube, I never looked back.And I used premium for years.

[–] DuskyRo 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only there was an easy way to selfhost piped or viewtube...

I swear there would be more instances if they made an easy step by step guide but I guess that's life when you choose FOSS...

[–] Flying_Hellfish 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if this post was /s or not, but ViewTube is actually pretty easy to self host if you have a docker host in your current environment. They even provide a docker compose example on the wiki.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Piped is just too inconsistent for me. I gave it a solid month or two, but half the time I open it up none of the instances are loading any videos. Eventually I gave up and looked into other options, ended up using FreeTube.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Freetube on desktop, Newpipe on android. This is the way.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It's possibly dedicated to messing around for people testing firefox after the news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To be clear, is this delay skipped for subscribers?

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[–] Carobu 91 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm pretty sure this is going to directly violate Internet neutrality laws when the FCC votes them back into effect.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Fungah 4 points 1 year ago

Well played.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn't similar shit get Microsoft hit with antitrust lawsuits?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but that was back when we had a mostly functional government. Times have changed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Disfunctional goverment benefits the rich almost exclusively. Sad days ahead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Maybe... Hope someone sues YT :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yes… many years later, and while those lawsuits were slowly being resolved, Microsoft was busy laying the groundwork for other bullshit that was unethical but not technically illegal.

If you actually expect a solution in a reasonable amount of time, either invent time travel or spoof Chrome.

[–] Nindelofocho 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ive been noticing this recently too also buffering occasionally on random videos from time to time when im having 0 connectivity issues. This isint going to make the average person think firefox is bad but rather that youtube is garbage

[–] MooseLad 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm one of 5 people who have premium (I use YouTube Music) and they're still slowing down videos for me. Also maybe it's in my head, but I think the Google search has been taking longer too. I've noticed some extra loading time that doesn't show up in Microsoft edge, or if I use duckduckgo/bing from Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I have had random freezing on the mobile Firefox for months now. I typically search in a private tab with a bunch of trackers disabled. If I do the same search in Chrome, Edge, Samsung Internet (in their incognito tabs) the searches load. This seems like a block on Firefox itself

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I would have thought the exact same thing. I like having videos play in the background so I wouldn't have looked into it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Gonna keep talking about Peertube until it starts to take off.

Seriously, how great would it be for your fave youtubers to have their own Peertube instance, and know that your donations go DIRECTLY to support them and maintain their server? With NO advertisements or possibility of Google shutting you down just cuz they dont like you

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your fav youtubers might host their own peertube someday, but there is still a lot of value in the other content that you don't consume regularly like tutorials or random interesting stuff. Peertube is not the ultimate solution

[–] ImpossibilityBox 4 points 1 year ago

I'm in full agreement here. I will always try to support the things I follow the most but probably my favorite thing about current media is finding a random person who does something incredibly niche and watching/listening a vid/song or two of theirs. I'll come every couple of months or so but I'm not consuming their content regularly. Tutorials as you mentioned are a great example of this.

I did the math a year or two that if I paid a single dollar to every YouTuber I watch and musician I listen to on Spotify I would be paying around $400 a month. In an idyllic world I would have a stable job with enough expendable income to make that happen. In this reality I don't see that as a possibility.

[–] konalt 39 points 1 year ago

I was wondering what that was for a few days. I thought it was just uBlock Origin doing its work.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's probably not, and now?

[–] badbytes 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, user agent switcher set to chrome, made vids load immediately. Shitty move google.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this only in certain areas? YouTube is still working fine for me on FireFox.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think I have some slowdowns FF with unlock Origin in Germany so maybe

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[–] dnnybrks 19 points 1 year ago

I use https://piped.video/trending as an alternative to YouTube.

[–] agent_flounder 16 points 1 year ago

US DOJ has an anti-trust complaint page... Easy to find via search...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Begun, the Chrome spoof wars have.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If everyone spoofs the Chrome user agent, they're going to think that fewer and fewer people are using Firefox on YouTube, which is not ideal :(

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Fuck Google, Fuck Youtube, Fuck Alphabet, Honestly just fuck everyone who does this shit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've noticed this happening on Firefox, but not with LibreWolf for some reason

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does Librewolf present itself differently or use a different user agent altogether? I could see Librewolf presenting itself as Chromium as a privacy measure and people are saying changing the user agent fixes the issue.

EDIT: I've seen this happen on Safari for macOS. Someone at Apple is certainly snitching to their higher-ups, lol.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I am not spoofing my user agent and I'm going to continue using FOSS front-ends to access YouTube until an alternative takes off. Fuck you Google.

[–] Carighan 8 points 1 year ago

I had this the past ~3 days, but now it's gone as of yesterday evening.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I called it. However I didn't expect them to do it that early.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

google's been messing with firefox on yt for years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

What is a user agent changer you'd recommend? When I'm on Linux, I use a Firefox PWA as my YouTube webapp.

[–] mypasswordis1234 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if I would change the useragent?

[–] Orbituary 10 points 1 year ago

He says that in the comment body.

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