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“Because I had a great successful presidency, and he was the vice president, he should endorse me,” said Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 GOP nod. “I chose him, made him vice president. But … people in politics can be very disloyal. I’ve never seen anything like it.”

Pence was Trump’s loyal soldier during their tenure in office but encountered Trump’s ire when he refused to bow to his boss’s pressure campaign to block the results of the 2020 election in his capacity as vice president overseeing Congress’ certification of Joe Biden’s victory.

During the insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, Trump tweeted that Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.” Videos from the Capitol during the riot show a man with a bullhorn, reading the tweet aloud to others in the mob. Inside, rioters swarmed the hallways, chanting, “Hang Mike Pence.”

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[–] jeffw 94 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Time to find out how much of a cuck Pence is. Let’s see if he does it

[–] NOT_RICK 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No matter what he does, he’ll never out cuck Ted Cruz

[–] Riccosuave 26 points 1 year ago

Or Lindsay Graham.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't Cruz the original cuck?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, so that's what OC stands for

[–] girlfreddy 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Canada apologizes for sending him south.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We're not going to blame anyone for that. We're thinking about doing the same thing.

[–] Bytemeister 7 points 1 year ago

I think Pence actually had more spine than say, Ted Cruz. I think Pence will not explicitly support trump, but he will not denounce him either.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump tweeted that Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.”

Trump is so unprincipled that he managed to get it exactly backwards. January 6 is the one time Pence actually stood up and did the right thing. I loathe the man, but I won't deny him credit where it's due. I can't even begin to imagine the level of chaos if he had gone along with Trump and his followers and refused to certify the 2020 election results.

[–] hansl 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not giving extra credit for the most bare minimum job.

Might as well give him credit for not shooting anyone on his way to the parking lot.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about extra credit, it's about the basic credit

[–] hansl 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No. He does not get credits for not breaking the law.

You don’t get a “good job today not setting anything on fire” credit either. Unless you’re part of a “arsonist anonymous”, but I don’t think Pence is part of a “treasonous anonymous” club.

Let’s stop lowering the bar to Olympic limbo just because the Republicans are cute puppy eyes. They’re fucking adults who know what they’re doing. Treat them like such.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You don’t get a “good job today not setting anything on fire” credit either.

You do if you're being compared to a bunch of pyromaniacs. Same way my roommate's dog gets heaps of praise when he barks less than he usually does.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Well.. he’s not part of “treasonous anonymous” because he’s clearly part of “treasonous obvious” aka the GOP.

They don’t need to be anonymous about it, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Trump usually does get it exactly backwards, to be fair. If he's accusing someone of something, it's because he's doing it. If he's claiming something, it's probably the opposite of the truth. He's remarkably consistent about it.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

people in politics can be very disloyal

  • says the most disloyal motherfucker ever
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's worth noting that he didn't exclude himself from that statement.

[–] themeatbridge 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pence is such a waste of a human, he might actually do it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He already halted his campaign.

[–] Ghostalmedia 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To no one’s surprise. Many of the GOP primary voter base literally wanted him dead and he was polling below 4% for primary voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of the Republican candidates will endorse Trump when he’s the nominee. Pence will be no different.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Historically the Republican candidates have demonstrated enviable party discipline and fallen in line after the nominee has been chosen, but Trump and the rest of the MAGA crowd have shown themselves to be so duplicitous that they won’t even honor agreements made with other Republicans. The more mainstream candidates like Pence may just figure that this time around there’s nothing in it for them, that they won’t get anything from Trump in return for their endorsement, not even goodwill.

[–] pandacoder 7 points 1 year ago

I would hope after Pence's life was threatened that he'd continue to do the opposite of what Trump wants him to do.

[–] CosmicTurtle 6 points 1 year ago

"Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I would bet on that.

[–] Saprophyte 18 points 1 year ago

"I’m confident I’ll be able to support the Republican nominee, especially if it’s me." - Pence

"Surely this will never bite me in the ass." - Also Pence probably

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pence-says-sign-gop-pledge-make-debate-stage-more-than-happy-meet-criteria

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guy has no self respect… he will probably bend the knee.

[–] Riccosuave 16 points 1 year ago

And cup the balls while stroking the shaft.

[–] badbytes 12 points 1 year ago

Trump is such a silly coward. What a weak man.

[–] aceshigh 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course he would. The Republican Party doesn’t believe in cause and effect. It’s like my dysfunctional family where everyone says and does hurtful things but we’re so dissociated we choose to let the bullshit slide and the drama continue. The only way to win is to not play, but no one has the balls to do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have to get out. I got out and it’s worth it. Get out.

[–] aceshigh 8 points 1 year ago

It’s a work in process. The 2 most important things I learned was the importance of understanding my emotions and boundary setting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Pence also defended them

[–] Thrillhouse 6 points 1 year ago

When Trump says “our Country” or “America” he almost always means “ME”. He does this a lot if you pay attention. He thinks he’s a damn king.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He will if they nominate him, but he won't during the primary.

[–] Replica 3 points 1 year ago