They also take more federal spending than they pay in taxes. The states are on welfare, not just the people.
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Red counties in Blue states are usually the ones taking more then giving also.
Kinda makes me think this is why they want to give more power to the Republicans because they are convinced it's the people they elected who are sustaining them. When really they are the ones holding them down.
Conservative policies have literally never been effective either socially or economically. They only funnel money from the poor to the rich. That's it.
It's the (insert current minority scapegoat)'s fault.
Republicans are the party of self fulfilling prophecies.
Oppress minorities into poverty - > stop programs to eradicate poverty - > complain minorities are poor and criminal - > rinse and repeat.
Elect corrupt, incompetent politicians - > politicians get rid of competence in government and shift money to political cronies - > complain government is ineffective and corrupt.
You forgot highest crime. Most murderers. Sure, they like to point at Chicago, but the top cities are in red states.
Here's the top 20 rated cities for homicide. List is less simple because they take into account other factors, but Chicago is #27 (rated #13 based on solely homicide rates)
Source (2023): https://wallethub.com/edu/cities-homicide-rate/94070
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Poor and uneducated people, as a whole, always more tend to vote conservative. Conservative parties around the world know this and strive for/want to keep this condition
Is this true globally or a USofA thing? On oneside of my family the entire lineage is working class in East Scotland. THey are died in the wool Labour voter's and won't entertain any Conservatism, when Labour shifted more central under Blair etc a few switched to voting for Socialist candidates, one went nationalist, but from my understanding this is the norm there.
Addendum to my other reply:
https://www.businessforscotland.com/scotlands-people-are-the-most-highly-educated-in-europe/
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I can't really provide a good source, didn't find a proper study by a quick google search, I believe it would be hard to track worldwide. But here in germany it's definitely the point with the party AfD.
And i mean it makes sense. Right populist politicians providing simple, easy to understand solutions, that don't work or even harm their own voters, for problems that they're addressing, that they made up, blaming easy targets, mostly foreigners who didn't do shit, for it. No need to think on your own if you have a stronk Führer to follow, promising paradise for you.
It's also easier to focus on a smaller group that you feel more affiliated, familiar with, than to think about absolute fairness on a bigger scale and make concessions. It's easier to shout "they're stealing our jobs" than thinking about being part of the problem by fucking up the economy of the country they came from. Or support the countries development, because that way they'd lose a useful scapegoat
Your observations are similar to my experience as well. Conservatives I know are regular people who, I think, feel overwhelmed by things they don't understand and whose self-protection response to fear and change is anger. They essentially want to simplify the world by reducing diversity.
One thing that I find interesting about this group is that most of them used to stew relatively quietly until imposed upon. I think that the rise of social censure for politically incorrect speech has had a strong rallying effect on them. That's why people like Jordan Peterson went from zeroes to heroes on the right. I hate to say it, but I think we on the left made a huge tactical error by aggressively regulating speech through social censure. Obviously, conservatives have always been out there in large numbers, but the imposition of rather doctrinaire political correctness, combined with the connecting and "outing" power of the internet, has led to them becoming much more vocal and politically active. Now, the right and the left have become not just rivals but mortal enemies.
There are also the religious extremists who want to remake the world in the image of their holy book, but that's a whole other nefarious kettle of fish. They are rather cynically using the anger of the populist right to forward their agenda. There is no better example of this than evangelicals lionizing a moral retard like Trump.
"ThEy sTeaL oUr fReEduM"
People have to be taught that every individual's freedom has the limit where someone else's begins..
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Actual rebuttal I've been given when making this point to a Conservative:
That's just because of the black people.
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And those welfare programs are gutted to near worthlessness.
in their fervor, they gutted the very welfare programs they depend on
Yet still soak up money. Almost like all the 'means testing' and like measures are just worthless expenses to make conservatives hard at the idea of poor people suffering more.
It's insane. My friend moved to Texas for work and he has had to wait 6 months for an appointment just to get his new driver's license. It's so dysfunctional. Unclear if it is by design or due to incompetence, maybe both
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Driving through some poor rural towns in Kentucky and West Virginia is like an extended commercial for a charity. It's sad. It's infuriating. And the problems are systemic.
Because kings have to have serfs and slaves, and all the yokels think they're going to wind up the kings, they're wrong.
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For the past 60 years the majority of recessions have started during Republican presidencies. GDP growth and deficit reduction also favors Democrat presidencies.
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White supremacists - surprise, surprise - only cares about the idea of whiteness. They never actually care all that much about actual white people themselves.
It probably has something to do with the fact that right-wing ideology (of which white supremacism is merely one) consists of nothing more than excuses, pretexts and lies designed to protect and benefit power and privilege and nothing else.
I have two half-Thai cousins who are hardcore white supremacists. It's so weird to talk to people who are so into an ideology that excludes them in particular.
I'm sure they are the freest.
Free from tyrannical acts of the government like properly maintaining roads.
@[email protected] They are, if you're a billionaire or corporation. Billionaires and corporations have the least restrictions in red states.
You may take our lives, but you can never take our serfdom!
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Capitalism. Especially poorly regulated capitalism.
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