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[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm really hopeful for backwards compatibility with digital and physical switch titles

[–] Gigan 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

backwards compatibility with digital

Fucking please

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The 3DS did have a tool that let you transfer digital DSi applications from the DSi onto the 3DS, and same with the Wii U for Wii digital applications. Pretty sure they're also planning to retain the current Nintendo Account system for the next console as well, so I'd say digital backwards compatibility is just as safe a bet as physical backwards compatibility.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense. IIRC there's games still being released for the last-gen Xbox and Sony consoles, or if there isn't they only stopped very recently, and the new consoles are a couple years old now. The 3DS still got games for about a year into the Switch's life. Supporting last-gen hardware for a while into the current gen is nothing new.

[–] Squizzy 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Absolutely there is, Fifa or FC now is definitely available on Xbox series one and PS4.

But Nintendo are a different kettle of fish, they needs to sell consoles and games. New first party titles are unlikely to be on last gen going forward with Xbox and PS. But third party will sell for the biggest market.

[–] TAG 2 points 9 months ago

Nintendo also has a history of positioning their last gen console as the budget alternative to a newly released console. They have even made brand new redesigns (Wii Mini, GBA Micro) of last gen systems.

When a new system comes out, especially if it is backwards compatible, there is a flood of used systems in the market from people trading up. Those systems need games to play and Nintendo is happy to supply them with all of the games they missed.

[–] MurrayL 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah I wouldn't use EA Sports as the yardstick here as they keep them coming long after everyone else has given up on a platform. FIFA 14 came out on the PS2 in 2013; the same year the PS4 launched.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The clearest hint yet that a Switch 2 is arriving next year came last month when Nintendo showed game developers a version of Breath of the Wild running on Switch 2 hardware behind closed doors at Gamescom.

Backwards compatibility?

[–] EternalWarBear 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I see them pulling a DS to 3DS jump. Better hardware and the cartridge is different shaped to prevent the games being played on the DS. Just in switch form this go around.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to upgrade the hardware but if I can't play my cartridges and downloaded games without repurchasing I won't anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think the above is saying they made the 3ds game carts a different shape so you couldn't fit the 3ds carts in a DS. But you could fit a DS cart in a 3ds.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Same with Gameboy -> Gameboy Color, and Gameboy + Gameboy Color -> Gameboy Advanced. Nintendo has a better history than most of supporting backwards compatibility

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Let's not forget the real pro gamer mover

GBA -> DS

[–] EternalWarBear 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, that's where I was going with it. Thought about breaking it into two separate sentences. But in my head it seemed weird to state "hardware upgrade and cartridge shape" separately. Probably should've thought for clarity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

i'm excited to see the eshop render at more than five frames per second. it performs so bad its beyond irritating and into hilarious, like I just crack up trying to use it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The eShop on Switch is horrendous. How did they manage such a good experience on the 3DS and then take such a huge step back with it on a much more advanced console?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The 3DS shop had its quirks, but was pretty good nonetheless. I wouldn't touch the switch one with a teen foot pole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It's horrible, I always buy on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Only reason to not do it is money..

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana 13 points 9 months ago

Nintendo does like money

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They'd be insane to not make it backwards compatible. It doesn't seem like they are drastically changing the form factor and they made a lot of games work with both Switch and WiiU so it would make sense for Switch2 to work with all Switch games.

If it's NOT backwards compatible, people will only buy it for Switch 2 games. If it is backwards compatible, people may buy it just go get a better Switch for playing Switch 1 games and older games in better quality. I.e. a Switch upgrade.

[–] TootSweet 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Like I did with the Switch, I'll probably buy a Switch 2 when an exploit is found to allow homebrew/mods/cheats/etc. Unless there's a Switch 2 title I desperately want to play before then.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster 5 points 9 months ago

There will probably be a Switch 2 emulator that runs games better within a month of release.

[–] morphballganon 3 points 9 months ago

Wonder if we'll see Metroid Prime 4 by then

[–] TAG 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This article just seems weird, like someone did a poor translation of a comment.

First of all, it feels weird that Nintendo would announce a new console, less than one year away from release, as an aside in discussion about Switch game schedules.

Second, Nintendo always likes to hype up their current gen console as a budget option when they release the next generation. They even released the Wii Mini and GBA Mico after their successor consoles. No one expects Nintendo to keep releasing AAA games for a last gen console, but saying that the Switch will stop getting more games feels like a narrative that they would not emphasize. Do they mean they will not develop any more games, not publish them, or not allow third parties to publish new games (no more cartridges or new eShop titles)?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Multiple news sources are reporting. The pcmag article was the first I saw.

Here IGN’s article that details the source better.

https://www.ign.com/articles/with-switch-2-rumours-in-overdrive-nintendo-says-its-still-working-on-switch-games-for-2025

[–] TAG 5 points 9 months ago

Both IGN and PCMag are citing the same translation coming from VGC. Reading the original article, it reads a bit different to me than what they are saying.

“We are still working on software for the Switch for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025,” Furukawa said.

That could mean that they are wrapping up development on the last Switch games in Spring of 2024 or it could mean that they will keep working on Switch games beyond April of 2025. It just means that the switch is not dead.

Nintendo is yet to officially comment on plans for its next console. However, according to VGC sources, the company has dispatched Switch 2 development kits to key partners, with a launch planned for the second half of 2024.

That implies that they know someone at a video game studio who says that Nintendo has made a Switch successor dev kit for third parties to prototype game engines on and that Nintendo thinks that they may launch a new console for Christmas 2024 (but it may slip later).

So, more rumors and speculation with no new announcements either way from Nintendo.

[–] slimerancher 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did they just confirm that they are releasing Switch 2 next year?

[–] TAG 3 points 9 months ago

No. The article cites VGC (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/nintendos-president-says-it-will-continue-to-support-switch-next-year/) who claim they have a source who was given a Switch 2 dev kit and told that the system is planned for the second half of 2024.