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The sun is not yellow or orange as we see in books and movies. It emits all the colours in the visible spectrum (also in other spectrums as well) making it white!

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[–] mvirts 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

White is defined by the color of the sun. Since we evolved within its light we of course see the distribution of wavelengths that make it down to Earth's surface as white. Even if the sun was always orange, we would see that as white instead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Do you have a source for that claim? There is no way we can validate that without sending humans to another solar system. And wait thousands of years.

[–] mo_ztt 1 points 1 year ago

Surely it is plausible that an organism that evolved vision under particular lighting conditions would develop vision adapated to those lighting conditions.

I'm not telling you it's not worthwhile to come up with ways to test the claim if you want to be rigorous (e.g. you could measure the wavelength sensitivities of the vision of nocturnal or underwater animals and see if there's a pattern). But to me it's pretty self-evident as a starting point at least.

[–] Anamnesis 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why do we see it as yellow, then?

[–] killeronthecorner 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because our atmosphere causes "scattering" of hues in the highest frequencies. This is the same reason the sky appears blue.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Blue light gets scattered more by the atmosphere. So less blue light is received directly in a straight line from the sun and more is reflected from other parts of the sky. That's also why the sky looks blue in the day and why the evening sky looks red (if the sun is very low during the evening, the blue light can't reach you because it scattered so much due to the very long shallow way through the atmosphere)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

During the day it's white, but it's also overhead and blindingly bright so we don't spend much time looking at it. As it gets closer to the horizon Rayleigh scattering begins filtering out the bluer light and the sun becomes yellow, then orange, then red. It also gets closer to our eyeline and becomes mildly safer to look at so we look at it a lot more. This in turn leads us to believe it's always yellow

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's yellow or orange due to the filter from our ozone/atmosphere and camera. It's also much more interesting to depict it as yellow or orange and not a white spot in the sky. When you stare at the sun on the equator and at 12pm, it's white, and then it will turn black because you'll be blinded by it.

[–] RHSJack 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better to have seen the sun for what it truly is, even for a moment, and be blind forever. Never seeing the birth of your child. Or your bride/groom on your wedding day. Or your peers' celebration of your accomplishments. Because you are blind. After staring at the sun for a few seconds. All worth it. *gets up **immediately walks into door frame. Corrects himself. Walks out door like a hero.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

The sun is green

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the sun isn't yellow, then how does Superman get his powers? Checkmate.

[–] ZeroXHunter 2 points 1 year ago

I have been fooled by the scientists, again. Thank you for opening my eyes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course it is. If it wasn't, everything outside would be tinted.

[–] ZeroXHunter 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, you would be surprised how many people think it is yellow.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Are they Coldplay?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sun actually gives out more green wavelengths iirc.

[–] Kushan 9 points 1 year ago

I think the point of the article is that the sun gives out all wavelengths and just because one is higher doesn't change the fact that it emits all colours.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mind sorta blown - such a great explanation.

[–] RHSJack -3 points 1 year ago

Well, someday science is going to make new discoveries and prove this is all wrong. It's like the coffee thing. Is it good for you or is it bad for you or...it's just dirty water and we can all go about our lives. Personally, my magic cloud god tells me they put it there to give us light and warmth. And turns it off to save electricity. Which is a good habit if you ask me. Follow my imaginary Hebraic friend and save on your bills.

[–] AdrianTheFrog 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

relevant video that came out today

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[–] BackOnMyBS 1 points 1 year ago

Why are the graphs for brightness as a function of wavelength and frequency not exact opposites? I thought that wavelength and frequency for light had an exact inverse relationship.

[–] KeisukeTakatou -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How about this, white isn't a real color.

[–] sebinspace 1 points 1 year ago

I mean.. how do we know anything is real?

[–] WillardHerman 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

White is a color. It’s all the colors.

“Light is perceived by the human visual system as white when the incoming light to the eye stimulates all three types of color sensitive cone cells in the eye in roughly equal amounts.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White

[–] KeisukeTakatou 1 points 1 year ago

Which makes it a combination of color and not a distinct wavelength of light.