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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave to c/politics

In an impassioned and at times furious speech, departing Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley defiantly proclaimed that the US military does not swear an oath to a “wannabe dictator.”

It was a bitter and pointed swipe that appeared unmistakably targeted at former President Donald Trump, who has in recent days accused Milley of “treason” and suggested that he should be put to death for his conduct surrounding Trump’s bid in 2021 to remain in office despite losing the presidential election.

“We are unique among the world’s militaries,” Milley said. “We don’t take an oath to a country, we don’t take an oath to a tribe, we don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or a tyrant or a dictator.”

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[-] linearchaos 109 points 7 months ago

That's why he wants to get back in, to finish the job and become an actual dictator.

[-] psycho_driver 35 points 7 months ago

From Limp Dick Potato to Dictator - The Donald Trump Story

[-] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

From 'tater Dick to Dictator - Donald Trump's Tumultuous Struggle to Get It Up

[-] psycho_driver 7 points 7 months ago

Damnit yours is way better.

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[-] blazeknave 6 points 7 months ago

Decades from now, I'll think of this comment with regret for not heeding your warning, as I breathe my last breaths hiding in some steampunk cave, hunted by stormtrooper drones, starving and without any resources, the last outpost of hope.. then the lights dim as the power runs out. "Fucking potato.." final breath.. eyes close.

[-] FlyingSquid 5 points 7 months ago

I hear it was more of a mushroom dick.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

President Donald Trump, who has in recent days accused Milley of “treason” and suggested that he should be put to death for his conduct surrounding Trump’s bid in 2021 to remain in office despite losing the presidential election.

no u.

It's comically simple how transparent fuckheads like him become once you tune into the pattern. Accusations are confessions, gaslight, obstruct, project, and all that

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[-] flossdaily 26 points 7 months ago

... We'll see. There's a lot of anti-American MAGAts in law enforcement and paramilitary organizations.

We have an infestation of Republican fascists, and no one can say how that's going to play out over the next couple of years.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

Trump's military followers don't give a shit about the constitution, they believe America and it's government is about what they as Americans (the real ones) want.

They act like they believe the constitution is a magical document able to agree with them no matter how they charge their opinion, adapting to internal inconsistencies and all. And if the constitution agrees with them no matter what, it doesn't matter beyond being an authority to appeal to for the sake of controlling others.

[-] SoleInvictus 18 points 7 months ago

They act like they believe the constitution is a magical document able to agree with them no matter how they charge their opinion, adapting to internal inconsistencies and all.

Hey, that's also exactly how they treat the Bible!

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I still vividly remember watching the Chairman of The Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Miley personally escorting Donald Trump through peaceful protesters being beaten and gassed to a Church Trump had never been to, to hold up a bible Trump had never read. Don't try selling me Mark fucking Miley, that fucking fascist enabler can go straight to hell.

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[-] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago

Milley has been very clear about his regrets for having been there, and understands that what he did was wrong. It's a lot easier with hindsight to think "Well, as soon as he realized what was going on, he should have left," or "He should have made these kinds of strong statements against his being dragged into that photo op much earlier."

That all happened on June 1, 2020, long before the election in November of the same year, and long before the events which Trump and other have now been indicted for in Georgia and the DC Circuit.

There must be a way for people to be redeemed for their past actions, and I believe that Milley's statements go a very long way in that direction.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I couldn't agree more. I'll just add:

"Well, as soon as he realized what was going on, he should have left"

He did.

Milley realized too late that Trump, who continued across the street to pose for a now-infamous photo while standing in front of a vandalized church, was manipulating him into a visual endorsement of his martial approach to the demonstrations. Though Milley left the entourage before it reached the church, the damage was significant. “We’re getting the fuck out of here,” Milley said to his security chief. “I’m fucking done with this shit.” Esper would later say that he and Milley had been duped.

"He should have made these kinds of strong statements against his being dragged into that photo op much earlier."

He said this within a week, if that counts:

The week afterward, in a commencement address to the National Defense University, he apologized to the armed forces and the country. “I should not have been there,” he said.

As far as I'm aware, any comment he has ever made regarding the incident he has said it was a mistake.

Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/11/general-mark-milley-trump-coup/675375/

[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Excellent. There is nothing wrong with Milley in the context of that event; in fact, there is everything right about his actions. Thank you for fact checking me.

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[-] blazeknave 7 points 7 months ago

Mf was the only reason I had any hope the military would stand against fascism. I didn't know we were debating his merits.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

... to hold up a bible Trump had never read.

~~Upside down.~~

Huh, I had no idea I was wrong about that.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

A true patriot would have snapped his neck and taken the punishment in service to the greater good.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

That's the type of person Trump thought Mad Dog Mattis was, because the nickname isn't indicative to who Mattis is, Trump was put off with Mattis's "warrior philosopher" schtick and Mattis in turn was put off when he realized Trump's fascist strongman persona wasn't an act.

As a former Marine who respects Mattis, I was deeply disappointed that he couldn't see through Trump's bullshit earlier on.

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[-] cmbabul 13 points 7 months ago

Dude could've made himself into a folk hero

[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Nah, that shitbrick would have been a perpetual martyr. Better that he gets publically kicked in the dick over and over instead.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In an impassioned and at times furious speech, departing Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley defiantly proclaimed that the US military does not swear an oath to a “wannabe dictator.”

And his tenure as chairman has provoked fierce debate among military experts: Was Milley too willing to wade into the realm of domestic politics, or did he stand in the breach to protect a democracy in peril?

On Friday, as he handed over the reins of the chairmanship to Gen. CQ Brown, the embattled Army general gave a fierce defense of his view of the military’s defining ethos: to defend, if necessary with the life’s blood of those in uniform, the Constitution of the United States.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy appears to lack the votes to pass a last-ditch stopgap bill to extend government funding beyond Saturday.

Two days after the attack on the Capitol, Milley – concerned that Trump “had gone into a serious mental decline” and might “go rogue” – instructed senior operations officers from the National Military Command Center not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved, according to Bob Woodward and Robert Costa’s book, “Peril.”

He also made a now-controversial phone call in the days following the attack intended to reassure Beijing that the United States was stable and that it was not considering a military strike on China.


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