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[–] Quazatron 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After 15 years of using Reddit, I was finally getting comfortable with Boost.

I knew this time would come, because corporations got to corporate... but it's still annoying.

I hope enough people come over to give Lemmy critical mass.

[–] spicytuna62 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Been using Lemmy for a few hours and I'm already getting the hang of it. I don't know how big it'll get because general audiences don't understand how it all works, they don't understand FOSS in general, and it's new and unfamiliar and people always prefer familiarity. Also, I think users are going to want an app. I think you have to cater to the iOS crowd if you want serious growth.

I think if you're unfamiliar with something, the best way to learn is to dive right in. It's how I figured out how to use Reddit. It's how I learned Linux and Bash. It's how I got good in Excel. It's how I got good at most of the things I'm good at.

Reddit will act to protect itself. It can't force users to use it, but I get the feeling dissenting mods will be removed and the blackouts won't last. I hope they do, but I'm not holding my breath. And I'm not going back, even if the blackouts do end on user-favorable terms. Fuck Reddit. Fuck the IPO. Steve can get rekt.

Boost was a spectacular 3P Reddit app. But I'm already liking Lemmy. So I'm sticking around for the long term. And I'm pretty certain I'm deleting my Reddit account at the end of the month.

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[–] LillianVS 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm witnessing a slow death of my beloved RIF. If they're killing it, I'm going down with that ship. I think spez solidified my choice with the Q&A.

I went back to see who was participating in the blackout and who wasn't. A lot of subreddits aren't that I had followed. I have been slowly but surely unsubcribing from all subreddits that still have posts barring things like the Ukraine subreddit where it's obviously really important for that one to still be active.

Once all that is done... I'm not going to have a reason to go back. I think this is the best way. I may salvage some of my old posts and repost them here where relevant. Then deactivate my account forever.

I don't agree with the direction of the internet. I think I need to practice what I preach and this in my opinion is the right way to go about it.

[–] dissonant 6 points 1 year ago

I'm with you, I've been using RiF around a decade now. I'll probably occasionally use old.reddit if I need help with a google search, but it won't be something I reflexively check anymore. I hope all the fragmented communities can find each other again on here.

[–] firead 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's pretty simple. Reddit as a company seems to have been on a path for years where they have done everything they possibly can to make the site more corporate at the expense of Reddit as a community.

I've been on Reddit for years (I deleted at least two accounts before sticking with my now 14-year-old account). To put it in context, my Reddit account is older than my child, who has his own Reddit account.

There were a lot of things on Reddit that I found annoying but it was easy to ignore. I was saddened by the way they fired Victoria and unfairly blamed it on Ellen Pao, and the effects of those decision s including the noticeable degradation in quality and corpoatization of AMA posts.

I also hated how blatant advertising and astroturfing kept showing up more and more and did not like the way practically everything turned into politics and divisiveness in a more recent era.

But again, most of that was pretty easy to avoid and I could just stick to my little niche subreddits that I liked, ignore the rest of the content, and view the site and a format I like because I could use a third party app. I never really cared for new Reddit and especially hated the official Reddit app, and with that being gone and ads and chat being forced on me, I'm done with it.

[–] Badass_panda 7 points 1 year ago

I agree with you on all these points. I'd also add that the amount of bot interaction and manipulation has increased to a point where it felt a lot of the communities were meaningfully less real over the last couple of years. Makes it a lot less fun.

[–] Danny_Aniss 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Haven't left reddit yet, I am waiting to see how the blackout goes.

I am more in a situation of dipping my goes in both ponds. I very much like Lemmy but I am still skeptical about its future. I have hope and am trying to be active here and participate in making it alive.

[–] Badass_panda 15 points 1 year ago

Ditto -- I haven't left reddit yet (although I'm going to make a genuine go at using primarily / only Lemmy for the next couple of weeks to support the blackout).

With enough scale, Lemmy could give reddit a run for its money in terms of content. At the same time, Lemmy still has a lot of work to do on UI, tools and features to be apples to apples with reddit. We'll need to make a lot of progress quickly here for a lot of us inbetweeners to come over fully.

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[–] Cosmonaut_Collin 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like how reddit it shifting to be a corporate monitored discussion site. I'm okay with reddit being a company, it takes money to run the servers, but they have begun to hinder the accessibility of the users for their own benefit. I'm sure they have done it in the past, but this time shows how little they care about us and how much they are in it only for the money. Now they are censoring and manipulating posts to look better. I don't stand by that.

[–] Crackhappy 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the first things I did on joining lemmy.world was set up a recurring subscription.

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[–] spectrologist 16 points 1 year ago

I figure reddit is going to get real shitty with the mass exodus, and I wanted to familiarize myself with a new social media app rather than watch my time waster from the last 6 years go down the toilet

Also I struggle with an eating disorder and continually got ads about intermittent fasting that were extremely triggering. I kept reporting them and they kept appearing in one way or another. So it really wasn't hard to convince me to delete that shit

[–] Whisdeer 14 points 1 year ago

I noticed that I'm not bound by any social media in specific (just WhatsApp and Discord for family and friends), just by the need to scroll something and see some things of interest. And I would rather scroll away at this site. It is calmer and people are more friendly.

[–] berkeleyblue 14 points 1 year ago

They killed Apollo, the standard Reddit Client on iOS is unusable and also I have an issue supporting a lying piece of garbage.

[–] kozel 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wanted to join Reddit this week, and found it was going into "interesting times". So I joined Lemmy instead.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] necrxfagivs 9 points 1 year ago

Same for me, I loved Boost I hope they migrate to Lemmy or something.

[–] Srapture 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

API changes will probably kill Relay. Even if they don't, want to quit out of principal (principle?).

Anyway, nice to meet y'all. Hope this takes off.

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[–] dan1101 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's apparent that the Reddit CEO doesn't appreciate that most of their content is produced by users and moderated by unpaid mods. I fully think Reddit deserves to be paid for API usage somehow, but stubbornly asking 24 cents per 1000 requests is ridiculous.

[–] Crackhappy 7 points 1 year ago

I totally agree with you, I don't see any reason Reddit shouldn't get paid for the usage of their API, but this draconian policy, along with all the other awful things they're doing to their userbase just makes it not worth supporting anymore. If there was some sort of negotiation or some form of compromise then at least there might be hope for the platform.

[–] hyperyog 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I left Reddit after the hypocrisy coming from the leadership at Reddit and with their decisions. After the AMA from Spez, it was the final nail in the coffin for my decision to leave Reddit, instead of taking accountability and owning up to their mistakes, they had completely attempted to justify their actions and seeing the developers' work go down the drain was heartbreaking, and I stand in solidarity with them. Even though I might be some minor spec to the entirety of Reddit, I still feel it's important to stand up for the community, even if it doesn't matter to them.

[–] nargacu83 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like many others in the past few days, because of their recent decisions. Plus i am a huge fan of FOSS, so knowing that Lemmy is a good federated open source alternative, it is a big plus compared to Reddit.

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[–] clonedhuman 11 points 1 year ago

I haven't left Reddit. I'm here for now to see if there's any sense of community and if I can engage with Lemmy the same way I do with Reddit.

[–] berkeleyblue 11 points 1 year ago

Simple: They killed Apollo and are a bunch of lying asshats that have no sense left in them. Unless they come to their senses I’m not using it anymore, as much as I loved the communities.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent 11 points 1 year ago

A lot of reasons, but the third party apps was the final straw.

[–] beefbaby182 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I haven't fully left yet. I'll probably hang onto my account for a bit.

I liken it to a train wreck. I'm so pissed at /u/spez and the decline of the site, but I still KINDA wanna see where it goes.

[–] Richard 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m in a similar boat. Playing a wait and see game, but looking at what alternatives are out there and whether they jump out to me.

Heard about Lemmy maybe a few months ago as Mastodon started to gain more awareness and figured it’d be a prime option to look into.

[–] beefbaby182 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm definitely taking to this one quicker than I did Mastodon.

[–] Richard 6 points 1 year ago

The trigger point for Mastodon for me was losing Tweetbot on Twitter and Ivory coming out. From that point onward I’ve spent more time on Mastodon than I have Twitter. I was a very light Twitter user but so it was a pretty easy jump to make, especially as a fair few people I followed also went over.

I’ll see how this one plays out. I’m an Apollo user so in a similar boat where I have an app that’s been orphaned, however I’m realistically not going to find anywhere with as mature an app unlike that Ivory scenario where TapBots were fortunate enough to have almost completed their Mastodon app when Twitter unceremoniously killed their API access overnight. From memory they had a beta at the time already.

Enjoying things so far so even if I don’t go all in, I think I can see my usage growing over time, hopefully alongside a broader growth of the community.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

With third party clients gone, if I stay on Reddit I will be subject to their awful UI and ad experience, plus the experience designed to keep me scrolling for days. No thanks!

Lemmy seems pretty cool so far. I like that when I open the comment section, there isn't already three or four people saying what I was going to say

[–] curlygirl 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only want to use third party apps to browse reddit, infinity is awesome. Also I read that reddit is trying to force people to use their app by blocking them from accessing reddit on their mobile browser. Fuck 'em.

[–] Crackhappy 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah that change to block people from using the mobile website is just evil.

[–] slaypuree 10 points 1 year ago

Haven’t left yet, but plan to once Apollo bites the dust. I dislike what spez said about Christian, as well as what he’s doing to 3pa.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] pottymouth12 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Knew this was coming, so hopped over here for an alternative. Have had a bunch of communities been following for a couple years. I hope this takes off, love seeing all the different opinions people have on topics. This is my first post!

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[–] lolola 8 points 1 year ago

Recent API changes, of course. I don't think they would have affected me directly, since I only ever used Firefox on desktop or Android to browse the site (ublock made for a much more tolerable experience). But in principle, I'm much more on the side of users trying to shitpost in peace than I am on the side of a company experimenting with new and exciting approaches to wealth extraction.

If Reddit goes down, figuratively or literally, users will need somewhere else to go. I'm hoping that jumping ship early and trying to build community elsewhere will help make it easier for others to join in later. Network effect and all that.

[–] kinther 8 points 1 year ago

I haven't wiped my accounts of comments and posts yet, but intend to do so on June 30th, then delete them. I'll still browse old.reddit.com until that goes away, then I'm out. Their new UI sucks, their first party app sucks... I just want a link aggregator and comment section that is purely text based. Lemmy is that.

[–] thynecaptain 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I left due to the issues with using Apollo. i was a major fan of the app and knowing it will be going dark soon for use, I think it was time for me to leave. Plus I've noticed since cutting reddit out of my daily routine it has significantly improved my mental health.

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[–] jobutupaki 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also haven't quite left yet, but I've been feeling for a long time that the quality of reddit is going down. I've been heavily using reddit since around 2011, and maybe this is just my rose colored nostalgia glasses, but I felt like pre-2016 and the T_D era, I was much more engaged in interesting conversation on various topics, and nowadays I mainly just mindlessly surf r/all looking at memes and what not, and only very rarely find those really interesting in-depth threads that I feel like used to be more common. Additionally, it feels like reddit is growing increasingly more corporate, I remember when you would often see r/hailcorporate links under anything that even vaguely hinted at astroturfed advertising, and now you see not so subtle ads disguised as posts everywhere (and I don't mean the ones coming from reddit). I'm hoping that I can find that old reddit feel here, and I'm currently really enjoying the excitement of discovering something new, even the apprehension of navigating a platform I don't fully understand. I don't want to sound elitist, but I'm hoping the barrier to entry prevents Lemmy from growing too quickly and becoming like reddit all over again, but not so much that this exodus dies like others have in the past.

[–] MrPoopyButthole 6 points 1 year ago

Reddit is going to become the new Facebook. All the people that are sick of their shit will leave and the rest will stay there and rot with the platform. I don't particularly want those who would stay there anyway.

[–] WandererLagomorph770 8 points 1 year ago

Haven't fully left yet, just waiting for data request exports to come in then I'm out since I already got the communities I'm in setup and wiped my posts, but pretty much what you'd expect.

I used Infinity as opposed to Apollo but same idea applies, I only ever used that or old.reddit, never the new site, so those going away was already a deal breaker for me, but their recent actions beyond that just further motivated me to go full speed ahead on this.

I'm still lurking in case of any interesting communities that could go here, I spotted about 5 different cat sub's I can list for that, and I'm still waiting on my data to get sent over, but after that then I'm gone for good.

[–] themojova 8 points 1 year ago

I´ve been feeling like leaving reddit for a while. It has been going down hill in almost every possible way. The main thing keeping me was that all the people and content were there but I´m hoping now enough people are leaving so that there is content and people elsewhere (here).

[–] LucidDaemon 8 points 1 year ago

I am about 75% off of Reddit. I'm waiting for a community that is equivalent to r/Ukraine and r/Ukraineconflict, and need to purge my posts and comments still.

Once the 3rd Party Apps are dead, I won't have much of a choice, since I use Infinity.

[–] gadgetcookies 7 points 1 year ago

Because we shut it down.

[–] lanaerys 7 points 1 year ago

Haven't fully left yet, but I'm definitely starting to look for alternatives with the ongoing shitstorm.

Less time on Mobile Reddit will likely be a good thing for me anyway.

[–] MarsRT 7 points 1 year ago

I haven't fully left reddit yet, but I'm more wary about going there, not because I hate using the first-party app and new UI, I've become accustomed to them. But because of how Reddit is handling the API debacle right now. They're willing to make unsavory decisions and double down on them despite widespread user distaste, going as far as to (defame?) an indie developer, and that makes me distrust the future decisions reddit will make on their platform.

[–] ComplexLotus 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • 👎 Con reddit: Buggy web page on desktop. It always asks me to use the app on mobile. No thanks.
  • 👍 Pro: Lemmy: fast loading web page, no banners. It works.
[–] isdfoa 7 points 1 year ago

i like being at the forefront of new things

[–] JamesMattDillion 6 points 1 year ago

I haven't left yet. I am sticking til the end of the month. My favorite 3rd party app is going to be no, so fuck Reddit. I am not going to be using their app. Maybe the website at first, but I am 99% sure that I am going to bounce on the end of the month.

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