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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov invited Ukrainian parents to "collect their children" taken from Ukraine amid the ongoing war.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That sounds ominous as all fuck.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

"Walk into my parlour" said the spider to the fly.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What could possibly go wrong with that. I heard the Russians have been very trustworthy in the recent past.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

See, it was all just a misunderstanding. Just travel into the country that's been bombing your country for over a year and show up at the lost and found office.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So they have no shame to admit they have committed war crimes. And as a parent I would be sceptical if I am safe collecting the children.

There is also many complications when citizens of a country they are at war with enter the other country. The most reasonable thing to do would be to bring the kids near the border where they would be collected by officials or an organization which makes sure the kids find a safe way home.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

And as a parent I would be sceptical if I am safe collecting the children.

Parents will do almost anything in order to be able to be with their children again, no matter how unsafe. That's one of the reasons this is so messed up.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago

Maybe just...unkidnap them instead? Lavrov is such a vampire.

[–] Burn_The_Right 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Hey families, come on over to our um... kids camp... and while you're here, can you help us inspect our walk-in ovens? Does is smell like a gas leak in there?

Conservatives are addicted to committing genocide. Every policy conservatives hold and every law they pass (no matter what country) is designed to inch closer to genocide. Every time.

Conservatism is a plague that is overdue for a painful cure.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At what point do we start to discuss how evil the Russian regime is? I mean, this is feeling like we are approaching the lines in the sand that we drew after WWII, if we haven't already blown past them.

I have no desire to lose more lives, but this is evil. How can any country support Russia in this?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

USA GOP supports them because Russia is the desired end-state MAGA retards wish to replicate: white Christofacist conservative homogenous country where minorities are subordinate and women and progressives keep their heads down and STFU.

[–] SARGEx117 26 points 9 months ago

Hopefully someday soon, they will.

Escorted by a great deal of firepower, armor, and air support.

And lots of international investigative teams figuring out and documenting all the war crimes and human trafficking.

[–] Omegamanthethird 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

As a parent, how could you say no?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You could say no because if you don't make it there on your way and back home safe, you forever lost your chance to be together again.

I understand your of course, this is inhuman in an endless list of ways and manipulates parents like a fine fiddle.

[–] fluke 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is exactly what makes this 'invite' from Lavrov so fucking insidious.

Because it makes it look like you don't care about your children if you don't. It's a yet another weapon deployed by a side that are constantly firing all kinds of weapons.

[–] Omegamanthethird 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not so much looking like a bad parent. Maybe feeling like bad parent. I mean, I don't know that I could pass it up, if there was even a tiny chance to get them back. The guilt of not going would probably drive me to dark places.

[–] fluke 6 points 9 months ago

But there is no chance. Lavrov has done nothing but talk complete and utter shit from day one. It's his job as Putin's lap dog. To create sound bites that Russian supporters can latch on to.

He knows he's talking pure shit, everyone with an actual brain knows he is. He doesn't care that the world laughs at him when he moves his mouth. Because that's not who he's speaking to.

He's speaking to the Tucker Carlson/Fox News/GB News/other nation's equivalent type troglodytes who think that Russia are doing the right thing and blah blah blah.

It's all propaganda.

Imagine if Goebbels told you, as a Jew that if you wanted your kids back all you had to do was travel to Berlin. Pinky promise! Of course you wouldn't even give it a second to consider. You would know it was complete bullshit.

[–] Maalus 5 points 9 months ago

It's not about you, it's about the image. In a month they'll be screaming "see! Ukrainians don't want their kids back! Ukraine bad!!!!". They'll silently lock up anyone who actually goes and try to spin it to their advantage.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe send Mom in case they try to draft Dad.

[–] Caboose12000 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

they can do worse things to mom

edit: please stop trying to guess the worse things, I don't want to read this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Eh, I'm sure theyll deny giving little Alexander a sibling.

"it was an accident"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

as a neighbor of russia, how could you trust a single word a russian says?

[–] Omegamanthethird 7 points 9 months ago

You absolutely can't. But as a parent, I would want to take any chance to see my child again.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they deny taking these children in the first place? Now they're trying to trap the parents by using the children as bait. Russia delenda est.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

No, they didn't.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Ugh, seriously, fuck Russia.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

"Where's my little Pavel and why are there so many windows in this room?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lavrov brought up the accusations of mass executions in the Ukrainian city Bucha, largely considered to have been the result of war crimes by Russian forces, and said Russia had asked to receive a list of the last names of those shown in pictures throughout the world in an attempt to discredit the accusations.

He called it "something quite simple" to be provided with, adding that there has been no proof provided that Russia has been involved.

"All the children that ended up in Russia unaccompanied by guardians, that list is openly available, unlike the names of the bodies in Bucha," Lavrov said, adding, "If those families are found, we will assist in reunification."

Lavrov claimed that "the vast majority" of children taken to Russia were living in orphanages, failing to address how that makes a difference in their being taken.

"When the special military operation began, of course we took them to safety. But we never tried to conceal the names of these children, which we took out of the country," Lavrov claimed.

"We continue to invite these parents, if they are out there, to come and collect their children. You can come and travel to these children yourselves."

Dronies wanting children to die in a warzone rather than be moved to safety.

Dronies cry about Bucha which has been debunked, yet are silent on the bombardment of the Donbass that is proven.

Maybe if Ukraine didn't use human wave tactics or accepted the peace deal after Bucha (Russia withdrew from Bucha as part of peace negotiations before the mass executions even took place, while there is multiple first hand source video evidence of Ukranian military shooting anyone they suspected of being Russian, a collaborator, or refusing to be conscripted) there wouldn't be so many orphans left to die by NATO

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or you know maybe if Russia wasn't a piece of garbage nation...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

what does this even mean?

Are you complaining that orphans in an active warzone were relocated?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Really missing the point here. There wouldn't be a warzone if Russia wasn't so dumb.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

So explain to me how Russia is dumb for successfully taking and holding, Crimea and the Donbass?

Are they dumb for reacting to a line they have drawn multiple times? Are they dumb for preventing Ukranian nazis from bombarding anyone suspected of being Russian for years?

Canada is now applauding Nazis while Russia burned them alive under Mariupol, are they dumb for doing that?

Is any other country that has created a warzone for geopolitical reasons, "dumb"? I would say any country that is a warmonger is evil, thankfully the country that pays me to post is peaceful.

In addition, they have successfully decoupled their economy from the west while the European industrial complex has weakened to the point they are now serfs to the Great Satan.