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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov invited Ukrainian parents to "collect their children" taken from Ukraine amid the ongoing war.

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[–] clanginator 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck Putin. The Russian people do not deserve the hardships they're enduring due to his warmongering rn

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin still enjoys widespread public support, and the vast majority of the Russian public supports both the explicit goals of the war as well as the implicit ones. This is a problem bigger than Putin, bigger than the oligarchs, and bigger than the current regime.

[–] clanginator -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Putin still enjoys widespread public support, and the vast majority of the Russian public supports both the explicit goals of the war as well as the implicit ones

Sources?

Every Russian I've interacted with has expressed their distate for Putin.

This is a problem bigger than Putin, bigger than the oligarchs, and bigger than the current regime.

So could you explicitly point to what the problem is? Bc it seems to me that the oligarchs and Putin have been doing their best to brainwash and ensure that they remain in power, to the detriment of the Russian people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Source?

Many.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2023-05-31/russian-public-support-for-putin-remains-high-despite-concerns-about-ukraine-war-poll
https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/

Every Russian I’ve interacted with has expressed their distate for Putin.

The ones you have interacted with online or in other countries are going to be less likely to support due to their age, education, and socio-economic status. Classic confirmation bias.

So could you explicitly point to what the problem is?

Explicitly? There is no simple answer. There has been brainwashing, no doubt. But look at Russian history. This isn't an anomaly. Culturally they appear to favor authoritarianism, nationalism, and strong man mentality in their politics.

The simple solution is education and multiculturalism. But that answer isn't really simple.

[–] clanginator 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info.

Culturally they appear to favor authoritarianism, nationalism, and strong man mentality in their politics.

Yeah, while I understand that there is an element of that that's uniquely Russian, I mean that was also much of the world for much of history.

But like you said, no easy answer.

And yeah obviously the people I interact with outside of Russia will give a different perspective. I just always got the vibe from them that a large portion of the population resented Putin, but apparently that's less of a vibe than I thought.

[–] Faceroll 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is all heresay but there were a few reporters over in Russia just asking random people in the street what they thought about the "Special Operation"; most of them answered that it was good that the Nazis were killed and that Ukraine should be brought back into the Motherland. Propaganda is one HELL of a drug.

Most of the Russians I have talked too over the past year also dislike the War and what Russians are doing there. But mind you these are people that no longer live IN Russia or people who left BECAUSE of the war. So there is that

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Propaganda is one HELL of a drug.

Sent from "the land of the free" (probably). It's hard to detect Propaganda if you are it’s target.

[–] Faceroll 7 points 1 year ago

Nah dude, I'm Scandinavian :)

[–] clanginator 1 points 1 year ago

I mean it's possible to discuss other countries' propaganda while being aware that US propaganda is some of the strongest in the world.