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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And they're going to vote for him.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't have much support from military members, but I've seen far too many of my fellow veterans supporting TFG and it needs to stop.

[–] ericisshort 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ashok36 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a person also wondering about that acronym, thank you for your service. 🫡

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 13 points 1 year ago

Originally it was "the former guy," which is what Biden said when he didn't want to use Trump's name.

[–] Wodge 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

could be "The Fat Gimp" as well.

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[–] AllonzeeLV 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And unironically call it patriotism 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If Trump suffers a stroke and ends up in a wheelchair and/or partially paralyzed himself, I think this comment gives everyone permission to feel happy about that.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've moved on to DnD style ethics, if something bad happens to someone whos evil aligned, that action is a good action. The old ethics were written for the powerful in an attempt to justify their power and demonize any challenges to it. I don't require specifics anymore. Its good and funny when bad things happen to bad people. And the worse the things, the funnier it gets.

[–] Feathercrown 13 points 1 year ago

Uh hello this is the based department, we're calling about the job opportunity. Unfortunately, you're overqualified.

[–] Jerkface 9 points 1 year ago

Fuck yeah. I mean, just look at Always Sunny. QED.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It would probably be the stroke suffering Trump.

[–] MegaUltraChicken 12 points 1 year ago

"Ugh, why'd I have to clot inside this moron?" -Stroke, probably

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[–] TheJims 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer presidents that don’t pardon war criminals

[–] krush_groove 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I prefer presidents that aren't criminals.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (11 children)

The headline buries the lead. He calls all soldiers "killers." This an article everyone should read.

[–] EmpathicVagrant 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the thing people say they like him for? "He says what we're all thinking?"

Sounds about right for republican patriotism; 100% packaging, 0% substance.

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[–] LEDZeppelin 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So much for the “ParTY of patRIOTS”

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck off for your service.

[–] Weirdfish 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know, as a non-combat veteran I would laugh my ass off if someone said this to me.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fascism has such weird body issues.

Next Trump admin, look for Liver King stuffed into a Navy crackerjack suit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The most incredible thing to me is when they paint him as some kind of strong man, when he'd probably shit his pants if he had to pick up some furniture. I'm not going to go on some tirade of dunking on orange man, just look at the guy. He's not healthy, let alone strong. He looks like a package of gummy bears that accidentally get left in the car in July.

To be frank, that's really all Trump has is veneer. Projecting the strong man energy while also having riding around in a golf cart be his most vigorous form of exercise and wearing shitty suit cuts that can't hide his obesity; the spray tan and comb over to project the idea that he's young and outdoorsy, while he's whiter than calling the police and almost 80 years old; acting like he can relate to the common man when the dude eats KFC with a fork and knife on his private jet. Even the charity work the Trump organization has been involved in was little more than a flat out scam. If Trump was a fruit, he'd be all rind.

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[–] fubo 12 points 1 year ago

Fascism has such weird body issues.

Always has. The Nazis' first mass-murder victims were children with disabilities.

[–] BeautifulMind 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you find yourself confused at how the right is all about those troops on one day and then when Trump shits on those troops they're perfectly okay with that- it's okay, that shit is confusing until you understand they only value the troops as props when it suits them.

It's also probably worth noting that Trump sees soldiers as chumps that weren't special enough to get deferrals like him.

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[–] Syrc 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wait, wasn’t this already known? I swear I read Trump saying something like this even before the 2020 election. Am I having a Deja vu?

EDIT: Yes, it’s old news but now we have a reliable source and more details. Obviously he denied the claims the first time.

[–] InternetCitizen2 14 points 1 year ago

Wait, wasn’t this already known?

To everyone but the people who need to know.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Ya know, it's funny, I suspect the wounded vets would love to look at themselves in the mirror and see that they in fact hadn't been wounded. But for them it's just not that easy.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 24 points 1 year ago

Milley had chosen a severely wounded Army captain, Luis Avila, to sing “God Bless America.” Avila, who had completed five combat tours, had lost a leg in an IED attack in Afghanistan, and had suffered two heart attacks, two strokes, and brain damage as a result of his injuries. To Milley, and to four-star generals across the Army, Avila and his wife, Claudia, represented the heroism, sacrifice, and dignity of wounded soldiers.

It had rained that day, and the ground was soft; at one point Avila’s wheelchair threatened to topple over. Milley’s wife, Holly­anne, ran to help Avila, as did Vice President Mike Pence. After Avila’s performance, Trump walked over to congratulate him, but then said to Milley, within earshot of several witnesses, “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.” Never let Avila appear in public again, Trump told Milley. (Recently, Milley invited Avila to sing at his retirement ceremony.)

[–] Chainweasel 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It wasn't even a decade ago when the Republican party was all about the wounded vets and veterans in general. They were THE American heroes and were honored extensively. They used them to speak about how the libs didn't give a damn about our soldiers and all that crap.
Then Trump came in with his "I like soldiers who don't get hurt or captured" bullshit and all the POW/MIA flags disappeared and got replaced with the Gadsen flag and the Iron Cross.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don’t have a good faith position. Trump’s attitude towards both the military in general and vets in particular- especially wounded ones - were voiced in public while he was still just a candidate for the Republican nomination. He thinks only an idiot or loser would join the military because they aren’t qualified for anything else.

People - even Putin - thought his campaign was over when he insulted Gold Star families, but the “pro-vet” republicans just supported him even more.

Any position they take is just for optics and can switch at a moment’s notice.

[–] Chainweasel 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't really surprise me that that's Trump's stance on things, but it does surprise me that the military loving Republican voters didn't even have to think about it. They just immediately went "yeah! Fuck soldiers!!".
Hell, most of the active military personnel we have are heavily right leaning and even they didn't have a word to say about it. They just lined up, voted for him, and bought more merch.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They use them to look good but they're also the party that cuts the services they most need.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

They weren't even that before Trump. They were busy dismantling the VA and cutting benefits for veterans before him. Jon Stewart had to go to Congress to argue for benefits for veterans exposed to burn pits.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If Milley did it right, he would have put the wounded front and centre after a remark like that. Just shove it in his face.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump is severely wounded on the inside.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 8 points 1 year ago

Is anyone shocked by this? It's obvious what donnie thinks of the military.

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