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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure being able to get away with breaking laws much more easily than most really makes one "lawful"

[–] FordBeeblebrox 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know how in Skyrim if a guard catches you breaking the law, you can just give him gold and he’ll fuck off and let you keep stealing?

It’s lawful like that.

[–] Viking_Hippie 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So in other words, neutral evil. He'll exploit the law to further his selfish goals like the rest of them, but he also has zero hesitation to ignore the law when that suits him better, which precludes any "lawful" alignment.

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[–] TotallynotJessica 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey. Trump probably isn't really a billionaire and has managed to get charged for crimes even though his former job made him legally above the law. I don't think lawful evil is the correct alignment.

[–] Noodle07 21 points 1 year ago

More like chaotic moron

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely Chaotic Evil, have you ever read his 3am rage tweets?

[–] Viking_Hippie 7 points 1 year ago

Nah, he's textbook neutral evil. He'll sometimes break the law to his advantage and sometimes exploit the law to his advantage. He doesn't give a fuck either way.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Musk and Trump are chaotic evil.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You think these folks are lawful evil? Trump has 90 some indictments against him.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

He's definitely not lawful, but I'm also not sure he belongs on a billionaire chart.

[–] Sporrik 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lawful != Following the law of the land Lawful means your justification for your actions is within the bounds of a strict personal code or creed.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, and Trump doesn’t seem to have one of those either. But I chalk that up to the brain worms more than anything else.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

Yea gonna go ahead and say at least 6 of these scumbags are unlawful evils.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lawful implies that they respect the laws...

[–] psycho_driver 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe in this case Lawful implies that they buy the laws?

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[–] Viking_Hippie 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Actually, I'm pretty sure Trump, being the eternal narcissist who thinks of himself being above the rules as a given, would be Neutral Evil. He wants to assert his selfish will on society IN SPITE OF the law as often as by USING the law.

The others are accurate, though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon is definitely Chaotic Evil now.

[–] Viking_Hippie 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, I'm pretty sure that he's still lawful evil. Just because the rules are getting more nonsensical and arbitrary doesn't mean that he's no longer committing evil using rules and regulations like a true lawful evil villain.

I don't know if you're one of them, but a lot of people think that chaotic evil is inherently more evil than neutral or lawful evil. It's not. It's just a different flavor of malevolence 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NightAuthor 15 points 1 year ago

If you only use his own words as a source, yes.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does "Lawful" apply here when they're buying politicians to change those laws for them?

[–] nickhammes 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lawful doesn't necessarily mean following the laws of a state, but adherence to order and hierarchy. Buying politicians to bureaucratically stack the deck in one's favor is compatible with lawful evil, for someone upholding a hierarchy in which they're (supposed to be) on top.

If it's more driven by greed than ideology, it's probably more neutral evil.

[–] meco03211 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. Some of those rat fucks are straight chaotic evil. Lawful usually means they have a consistent set of ideals they follow. Rules they won't break and such. Some, like Trump and musk, would gladly break any rule they've previously set to get just a bit further ahead than others.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They're lawful only because they write the laws.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Trumpy is only is a billionaire in his dreams

[–] VubDapple 22 points 1 year ago

Musk was bald but too vain to wear it well.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Might be switching Trump to unlawful evil in a few months here.also might be dropping him from the list entirely

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Awful* Evil

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[–] Ghostalmedia 7 points 1 year ago

Trump, runs for the job of enforcing the laws so he can declare himself “lawful.”

[–] datelmd5sum 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you still a billionaire if there's a minus sign in front of your net worth?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I like how they are all still 100% appropriate to their positions in a proper alignment chart.

Except Elon, he definitely seems to have a dark undertone under all the bullshit.

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