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[–] Drtrillphill 183 points 1 year ago (2 children)

6:45 p.m. Eastern Time to 9:00 p.m

[–] TropicalDingdong 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There it fucking is. Would it have been that hard to put it in the title News Week?

[–] thesprongler 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But then they couldn't inundate you with ads.

[–] malloc 36 points 1 year ago

Saved us a click. Thanks bro

[–] malloc 113 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Given that a conviction does not stop this person from running as a candidate for POTUS. I wish the media would stop giving this guy air time.

It’s all he wants. He didn’t show up to the GOP debate yet somehow still got equal mentions in mainstream media.

Even local news channels airing his prerecorded shit. Like bro, I want the traffic and weather updates. Not this bs

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The Constitution itself would suggest he's already barred from running. I am just hoping someone takes this up and actually challenges it in the courts well ahead of time. Disqualification comes the moment you're even brought to trial on sedition charges. This was incorporated language following the Civil War as there otherwise would have been too many people to disqualify individually through the litigation process ahead of future elections.

This article does a good job explaining this provision within the 14th Amendment: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/trump-jan-6-insurrection-conservatives.html

[–] thesprongler 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They cherry-pick the Constitution more than the Bible. That doesn't mean anything to them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The corrupt supreme court has literally ruled that part of the text of the second amendment is the absolute unchallengable law of the land and another part just doesn't count. They don't just pick the cherries, they pit them as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am just hoping someone takes this up and actually challenges it in the courts well ahead of time.

I personally know someone working to file suit against the state AG to bar trump from the ballot in their state, so there are things going on. Whether they're successful or not is anyone's guess.

My guess is "no, they won't be." The 14th may in fact bar someone from holding office, however, it's my personal belief the 5th and the 14th both require them to be convicted of said offenses to first trigger the bar

[–] dhork 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 14th may in fact bar someone from holding office, however, it's my personal belief the 5th and the 14th both require them to be convicted of said offenses to first trigger the bar.

When the 14th amendment was passed, it was interpreted quite broadly to mean anyone who was involved in the Confederacy, in any capacity. It had nothing to do with any conviction. And in 1872, Congress passed an "amnesty act" limiting the restrictions to politicians and military officers, implying that even grunts in the Confederate army were deemed disqualified until the act passed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_Act

[–] FuglyDuck 6 points 1 year ago

The 14th also contains the due process clause which would seem to require some form of court process before precluding anyone from participating in their right to seek office.

Not that I like it at the moment, but it’s there

[–] ohlaph 1 points 1 year ago

He should be. The other republicans are afraid.

[–] Chainweasel 60 points 1 year ago

Vulgar Insurrectionist Pedophile?

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After what happened with Pringles in Russia, I think a lot of security is nervous right now, regardless of the possibilities or not.

Not that I care.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pringles left the can and got smashed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's hard to stop a can once it's popped.

[–] 4lan 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't give me hope like this...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You shouldn't hope for this. If he is assassinated, they turn him into a martyr.

[–] Zombiepirate 12 points 1 year ago

I'm expecting so many conspiracy theories to emerge about his death when he finally croaks from natural causes.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something about your comment alludes to your belief that anything short of decisive, lethal violence will put the frothing magats off the rampage. I, for one, am not so fond of the hopium.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump in jail weakens them more than if he's dead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Username does not check out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Blood comes later

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints 0 points 1 year ago

And costs us plebs plenty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

True, but at this point I feel like he'd do less damage that way.

To be clear, I am not wishing death upon former President Donald Trump.

[–] ganksy 15 points 1 year ago

He'll wait until all the nightly news broadcasts are over making them have to talk about him the whole time in anticipation. That's ok. I've waited 7yrs for this shit and I can wait a little longer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

He is no "VIP" anymore!