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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you simp for dictators you cannot be leftist. All authoritarian is right wing. Tankies are virtually no different than MAGA Republicans. Both have the same goals regardless of the minor differences. And I have never seen a tankie talk shit about conservatives.

[–] Someboynumber5reborn 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maga communism, which yes is a real thing, proves you 100% right

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Make America Great Again" Communism doesn't make sense, however if you follow their stupid logic that MAGA will render the United States into a religious theocracy and post-apocalyptic wasteland, running a small local commune to survive is possibly the only way to survive if they succeed.

Fuck tankies, fuck MAGA, fuck rural uneducated dipshits who vote that way, fuck capitalism, fuck cops, fuck anarchy, fuck me, fuck cars, and most importantly fuck you for reading this.

[–] cmbabul 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t want to live on this planet anymore

[–] scurry 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t worry they’ll follow you to space.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Shouting their shitty takes all along the way

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't want them to live on this planet anymore...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Tens of millions of communists have died fighting for the emancipation of the working class. Half the world was communist at one point. The people you call “MAGA communists” are an online micro-ideology of a few hundred infantile Westerners, who most communists are not even aware of, and who all communists who are aware of them reject as explicitly anti-Marxist and crypto-fascist. They have no relevance to communism whatsoever.
This is one of the purposes of the ‘tankie’ slur - to associate Marxists with people who are explicitly opposed to them and so fringe as to be otherwise irrelevant. In this way the ideas of communism can be confused and distorted in the public consciousness.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I have separate distinctions between "Tankie" and communist.

Communism, true communism as explained by Marx. Classless, stateless. NO ELITE CLASS This is the goal. This is good.

Tankies seem to just want Putin or Xi to rule the world. Or are capitalists LARPing as what they think commies are in effort to troll. Probably both with some true believers filtering in over time. Sorta like the origins of r/The_Donald and flat earth theory.

TLDR Communism != Tankie

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the ‘tankie’ slur

another example of you demonstrating op to the letter - playing victim. Just like all oppressors who seek to flip the script - white people who claim reverse racism is a thing, men who claim reverse sexism is a thing, transphobes who claim being called cis is a slur.

What a pathetic fucking clown.

[–] Someboynumber5reborn 2 points 1 year ago

It's funny too because I've been called actual slurs by tankies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

MAGA Communists are the tankies.

Anyone who simps for authoritarian state violence inflicted militarily upon civilians is a tankie and anyone who DOESN'T simp like that ISN'T a tankie, full stop, regardless of their espoused economic model. If you're not simping for a power-mad mass murderer, you're not a tankie either.

[–] Falmarri 21 points 1 year ago

I was arguing with one earlier about how you can't criticize desantis for attacking Disney because Disney is a corporation

[–] Someboynumber5reborn 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an anarchist I tried being peaceful with tankies in leftist spaces, but the moment I criticized shit like Putin invading Ukraine they immediately turned on me. These people don't give a shit about leftism they care about state capitalism. After reading Lenin I now know why they hate other leftist so much, it's because he hated them too

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lenin did not hate other leftists. Kropotkin, for example, was one of his favourite writers. His own brother was an anarchist. He did consider non-Marxist ideologies to be incapable of effecting real change or defeating capitalism. It was ‘other leftists” who, in the early days of the revolution, aligned themselves with reactionary forces, attempted to overthrow the revolution, and tried to assassinate Lenin himself.

[–] Someboynumber5reborn 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've read revolution and state and he literally calls anarchists opportunist, he also destroyed actual anarcho communist communes during the Bolshevik revolution because he saw them as anti-revolutionary, if he liked Kropotkin he didn't like anarchists

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you. I tried interacting with one today and they just kept telling me I'm not introspective enough. Like just outright shaming me as if I don't understand my own thoughts and choices. Conatantly attacking my character rather than my arguments.

OP points out it's not just their beliefs that are problematic but this like, systematic behavior of disrupting our beliefs.