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When special counsel Jack Smith criminally charged Donald Trump this month for attempting to overturn the 2020 election, the indictment referenced six unnamed co-conspirators—five of whom are identifiable—who aided the ex-president’s plot to stay in power, i.e. break the law. Why Smith chose not to charge these individuals is unclear; while it’s possible that the prosecutor only targeted Trump to expedite the case, it’s also plausible that he did so as part of a strategy to get them to cooperate and become government witnesses against the former guy. And according to a new report, it seems like at least some of these people might be willing to talk to save themselves.

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[–] FlyingSquid 136 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean like how he turns on everyone the minute he feels threatened by them? Like almost his entire administration at this point?

[–] DoctorTYVM 34 points 1 year ago

No honour amongst thieves

[–] holiday 19 points 1 year ago

Entire career

[–] Chainweasel 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Will"? How exactly does he think they ended up unindicted in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I know, right? The “unindicted” in unindicted co-conspirators translates to “cooperating with the prosecution” co-conspirators. 

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh, I can't wait for the next season of "I barely know them, never really talked to them" !

I hope it has a better end than the last one though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It'll be an interesting tactic when he tries it on members of his family

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I, for one, am excited for the new seasons of "I cannot recall" and "I plead the fifth"

[–] NatakuNox 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh it's blatantly obvious that 2 or 3 indicted have already flipped. One is definitely part of his inner circle. Also, with some names that should be in these indictments conspicuously not on them, there are a few people in his direct family working with DAs. My money's on Jared and Ivanka.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Can you please provide evidence of this? Links? I've been following these indictments and, while I don't have reason to believe otherwise, I haven't seen evidence that anyone is already talking.

[–] Coreidan 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good. I hope the fear keeps him super stressed out and anxious. With a little luck the stress will give him an ulcer so he can live the rest of his life in pain and agony.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Ugh, I know they don't deserve the sweet embrace of death, but I honestly would appreciate it if him, his whole family, and anyone who ever remotely supported him even for a brief moment just dropped dead already.

Face it Republicans, you couldn't make America white... ahem... "great" again. Perhaps you'll have better luck in Hell? Fucking Nazis and their sympathizers can fucking die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hoping the stress and the decades of eating McDonald's lead to a fatal heart attack before the election.

[–] paddirn 43 points 1 year ago

Because that's exactly what he would do if the situations were reversed.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't tell who are scorpions and who are frogs, but I'm looking forward to watching them all drowning in the river.

[–] MotoAsh 18 points 1 year ago

I think they're more like a ball of scorpions attempting to forge the river like ants... Just all bunch together, hold on, and jump in. The sad thing is they made it most of the way before people realized a bunch of scorpions are trying to make it to shore...

[–] mr_jawa 36 points 1 year ago

Who would have guessed that the party of selfishness and dishonesty would stab each other in the back.

[–] FuglyDuck 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He’s wrong though.

They already have. Or did he think they got away with it?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Trump fears the people around him will tell the truth when asked questions

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Oh no, this is the worst thing ever!

...I'm almost out of popcorn!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this and in the Georgia case there are enough co-conspirators who don't want to stay behind bars til they drop. Only one needs to sing the right tune, and loud enough to get a "get out of prison" card. The problem that Trump is only surrounded by weak yes-men is that they are weak.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Georgia indictment is amazing. Something like 19 people named, and like 30 unindicted coconspirators. There's no way there's not a good number of flips there.

[–] paddirn 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For some reason, I would've had Georgia as the last place to ever bring something like this. I guess I just assumed it was solidly Republican that would never let something like this get this far.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Looks like DA Willis is a democrat, so that could be part of it. I heard the governor wasn't wanting him charged, but I'm glad a patriot was in the DA position to ensure that an attempt at justice could be brought against him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Having watched Georgia for a few years, the impression I get is that it's pretty close to a 50-50 mix of red and blue with a constant struggle for control. Atlanta is of course consistently blue.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have why do you think they're unindicted?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know this one! The answer is all of them. All co-conspirators would happily sell Trump down the river.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see Ghouliani being dumb enough to stay loyal. Turning on Trump now won’t save him, anyway. 

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

But it's gonna make it all the more hilarious when Trump throws him under the bus.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There's going to be a fight to see who can throw him under the bus first.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Fears they will? Of course they fucking will 🤣

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a long time, Roy Cohn was 'The Guy' in New York City. You know, 'The Guy who knows So-and-so...' or 'The Guy who cam make a deal happen.' He mentored Trump and helped him get started. When Trump found out Chon had AIDS he dropped him.

Trump deserves to be shafted by his people.

[–] NABDad 2 points 1 year ago

Of all the people Trump had screwed over in one way or another, I'm having a lot of trouble finding any sympathy for Roy Cohn. Fuck him.

[–] eran_morad 8 points 1 year ago

Can’t wait to see this traitor shitcunt in cuffs & an orange jumpsuit.

[–] badaboomxx 6 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't he do the same?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Literally everyone under criminal investigation fears this.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump and "rational fear" are words I never thought I'd use together, but here we are!

If someone could avoid 5, 10, 20 years in prison by flipping, do you think they wouldn't?

Giuliani is, what? 79 years old? 5 years in prison would be enough to end him. He knows this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I would turn on my boss to save myself 10 minutes of moderate inconvenience and my boss is actually rather a decent guy.

[–] exixx 4 points 1 year ago

I hope Ivanka flipped on him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Already have baby doll.

[–] PutangInaMo 0 points 1 year ago

The article says nothing about the title though..