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Trump says Biden’s pardons are now ‘void and vacant’ after autopen controversy
(www.independent.co.uk)
HitlerPig is "void and vacant."
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[Trump wrote] “The necessary Pardoning Documents were not explained to, or approved by, Biden.”
"Not explained to."
Dipshit is really telling on himself here that actually reading an EO didn't even occur to him, he relies on others to dumb them down for him.
This is another one of those ‘scary and must riot’ thresholds. The presidential pardon powers are absolute. If he attempts to dismantle this… much like dismantling the 1st Amendment that he has already begun to do… rioting and articles of impeachment should have already begun.
I hope he executes Hunter Biden in the street so libs wake the fuck up :)
I mean, I’m not really sure presidential pardons should even exist, but they do, and it’s a problem that Trump is trying to get around them to persecute the opposition party.
Presidential pardons most definitely should NOT exist. But also, F Trump.
To be fair, someone willing to abuse pardons that wantonly is never meant to become President in the first place. The Electoral College was supposed to be one protection against that, but obviously that has been a massive failure.
The Electoral College was supposed to be one protection against that
Instead, it only enabled it!
This is another one of those ‘scary and must riot’ thresholds.
Americans are known to miss that boat. Remember when Americans rioted over the 1985 MOVE bombing in Philadelphia when they dropped bombs on the city and let blocks burn? Or that time when Americans rioted over the police and government firebombing Tulsa? Or that time Americans rioted over the people who caused the '08 financial crisis not receiving justice?
Inb4 Trump starts issuing executive orders with "constitutional amendments".
Need more riots with guns please
Ridiculous. A man who breaks laws and violates the constitution daily calling out his predecessor for using the wrong kind of pen while attempting to protect people from persecution. If there were a functioning justice system this would be dismissed out of hand.
My concern here is whether anyone is actually going to stand up to him. He's clearly flagging that he's going to go after these people and it's going to be dependent on whether the DOJ actually pushes back or not.
it’s going to be dependent on whether the DOJ actually pushes back or not.
Lmao.
As if that's even a question. He picked who he picked for exactly this kind of thing. There will be no pushback.
Good news is, Pam Bondi is dirt cheap. It only takes $25k for her to drop investigations!
Expecting the courts to save US democracy? How's that been working so far?
By his logic, we could treat Trump's pardons as 'void and vacant' as well.
This isn't a country of law and order anymore. Laws only apply when Trump wants them to apply. There is no logic beyond that.
Laws have only ever applied when someone is willing and able to enforce them.
What, are you suggesting that our virile Supreme Leader, renowned for his stamina and attention span, didn’t sign all 1,600 J6 pardons by hand?
I believe our strong, virile leader spent all their waking hours signing those 3,300 J6 pardons while big, strong men stood their with tears rolling down their cheeks.
His aren't signed by a pen at all and could easily be fraudulent because of it. Think about it, an 8bit graphic is much easier to copy than 32bit.
after autopen controversy
There go the media again implicitly giving credence to Trump's nonsense. There was no "autopen controversy" except Trump making this groundless assertion. They make it sound like he's responding to a real controversy.
Sounds like a sovereign citizen “where’s the wet ink signature?” kind of complaint.
It's not a complaint. It's a pretense and excuse to persecute people he doesn't like.
I hate when articles like this use words like controversy. There is no controversy when someone just makes up that a standard thing is now an issue.
That's the Fox model. Have your talking head invent visit on the morning program, have them debate it on the afternoon program, then have the evening program report on the controversy.
Man I am getting so tired of saying “I fucking told you so” to so many people.
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ha, says the guy who wants to make things declassified by his thoughts alone.
Well, he's not in prison for treason or anything related to classified documents being mishandled, soooooooo.......
Rule of law means nothing in the US anymore unless you're poor. If it mattered, we would have had different presidential candidates from the start.
If anyone still cares in the government, none of them care enough to actually do anything but stand by and watch. Maybe give a half-hearted "yeah way to take a stand" after the fact when someone gets dragged out of the room by the fascists.
Excellent domain name for your instance, by the way. Absolutely horrifying in just the right way.
If this sticks, then maybe the next democrat in office can reverse all of the Jan 6 pardons?
That is wishful thinking. The democrats have never responded in kind to republicans breaking precedent. If there's any lesson to be learned from the 2024 election, it is that democrats hold "precedent", "decorum", and "mature pragmatism" to be more important than winning (or quelling fascism).
It's the same wishful thinking as people who were saying "Biden could use the new presidential inmunity SCOTUS ruling to legally assassinate trump!"
Understand that both democrats and republicans are driving us off a cliff.
Yep - I’m not going to hold my breath to see those people held accountable.
In fact, every law that wasn't written by hand with an ink-dipped quill is illegitimate! The magic spells won't work if we don't follow the rituals exactly.
They've been signaling this for a week on r/conservative
If they want to disqualify for being mentally incompetent, then all of Trump's and at least half of Regan's terms are also void.
I also love that dipshit who still can't even admit that Biden won the election.
You can keep pretending things go back to the way they were after trump. I've given up on that illusion. Do yourself a favor and realize now that trump will not freely cede power.
I said elsewhere on this post that this is a pretty clear indication he doesn't expect there to ever be another president
The irony of them calling Biden a "President Puppet" when we all know Trump is a poorly disguised Russian Puppet
Copium
And the vacation thing when Trump spent 1/3 of his first term on the golf course
Making it even more clear that he never expects there to be another president.
He’s also trying to draw attention away from the illegal deportations they did over the weekend.
Something here is "void and vacant" to be sure, but it isn't Biden's pardons.
Last week, the group challenged the legitimacy of the orders signed by Biden claiming that an “autopen signature” was used across almost “every document” it could find.
However, a Fox News examination of President Donald Trump’s executive orders during his first and second administrations found “the signatures were also the same.” Twenty-five of Trump's signatures on the Federal Register’s website from across both terms also found signature matched, according to a separate analysis by the Daily Mail.
The king declares.....
So is trump now able to attack biden's family as well as everyone who tried to investigate and prosecute trumps own crimes?
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