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France manages to get a sub to us before the UK even deigns to comment. That says it all. Merci beacoup!
this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2025
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Hijacking the top comment to let people know this isn't in response to any American threats, this is Naval Group, a French naval defense company, showing off their submarine because Canada is looking to spend 60 billion on twelve submarines. The plans for this purchase were publicly announced on July 10, 2024.
Here's a French news article about the submarine, seeing as I couldn't seem to find any sources in English.
Naval Group, a French naval defense company
Ah shit, that's the same company Australia had a deal with to buy diesel subs, before our fuckwit former PM reneged on the deal to create AUKUS and buy American nuclear subs.
I'll take both reasons as canon, thank you very much
Weird that they specify "conventionally powered" in the Canadian article since this is a nuclear powered sub.
I don't know if that's a mistake. It might not be a nuclear sub, just a sub which has nuclear weapons capabilities ( though obviously not this particular sub because it's still in the hands of a defence contractor ( I hope ) ).
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Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.
An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea
Still hasnβt happened. This was a sales pitch for a Canadian defence contract.
Hey. Guess what? At the moment, we're the bad guys...
At the moment? When was there ever a time the US weren't the bad guys?
Briefly the us was the good guys when we killed a bunch of slavers and then when we killed a bunch of fascists. Those were exceptions to the rule though.
Looks at founding fathers... Yeah killed the slavers. Puts blanket over Native Indians. Hides Chinese rail workers under rug. Renames Irish "Indentured workers"
They also killed the Nazis, except for the ones that were useful, of course.
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Yup
To be accurate, this is a nuclear propelled attack submarine. It does not carry nuclear warheads and is not what we normally call a "nuclear deterrent".
I believe you, but do you have a source? That's a pretty big distinction when *they're calling it a "nuclear attack submarine"!
EDIT: Clarification
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Would a french submarine wear its hat like this:
or like this:
Let's go! France is here to protect Canada!
Na, theyβre just finishing the 7years war-round 2
Idk about that. Other commenters have better explanations that aren't sensational.
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The scale of these things is always fascinating. They're always much larger than I think they are.
For reference, I think that's a Suffren class, making it just shy of 100m, or a tad longer than a football field for my fellow Americans.
The previously-mentioned French article says it's a Barracuda, but I don't know if that's a model or a class.
And unsurprisingly, he also decided to offer the Royal Canadian Navy its "premium" model, the Barracuda, rather than the Scorpène.
The Barracuda is (apparently) an export variant of the Suffren and is indeed a little shorter but still over 300 ft long.
perchance, banana for scale?
It's a football field, Micheal. How big could it be, a banana?
It's there, but hard to see.
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Important note: The "Nuclear" in "Nuclear attack submarine" means that it is powered by a nuclear reactor. It does not refer to its armament. An "attack" submarine means it is designed to attack ships and other submarines and these are typically not capable of carrying and launching ICBMs. Nuclear-armed deterrent submarines are called Ballistic Missile Submarines.
Don't forget all the cruise missiles - it's not just for attacking things at sea.
Donβt tease me!
NOBODY backs an American Revolution like the French!
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Fuck yeah.
Source?
Here's a French article about it. It's not a show of force, it's a naval defense company showing off their submarine in the hopes of being granted a 60 billion dollar contract for 12 submarines that the Canadian government announced last summer.
France
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