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What conservatives don't understand is we know you're full of shit because you raised us. You idealize about a time that never was and we know it because we watched it destroy you. We were all raised in broken homes because you broke them. We watched the war on drugs destroy our neighborhoods because you were the ones who were xenophobic. We know this is all fantasy because we watched you fail and we don't want that for ourselves or anyone.

So please. Keep your fetishes in the bed room.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown 20 points 20 hours ago

That was my abusive parents view of the perfect family. When I see photo's like that it makes me angry.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 23 hours ago

The only reason the blue collar man in the meme can afford a suburban home, a large family and free time on one income is because of very large taxes on the rich and very high rates of unionization. If people have these and choose to be trad-idiots, fine, so long as other people can also have these things and be free to choose to not be trad-idiots.

[–] captainlezbian 5 points 15 hours ago

I know left wingers who look like that. Thing is they want it for themselves and don't force it on the rest of us

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In the 1950s Americans bought almost nothing they couldn't afford in cash. Consumption of non-necessities was very low by comparison to today. If people want to live like they did in the 1950s USA we need to all join unions, stop buying stuff, and have the industrial capacity of the rest of the world be destroyed by war.

Personally I'd prefer focusing on the present and future rather than glorification of the past.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 3 points 15 hours ago

Not pictured; 90% Top tax bracket.

[–] satans_methpipe 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Running in overalls is weird.

[–] Coreidan 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why? They are just clothes. People run in clothes all the time

[–] IsThisAnAI 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Because they are uncomfortable for movement, heavy, and absorb sweat. It's not likely anybody would be wearing them for sports unless it was just a quick impromptu thing and as such it looks weird.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That whole tradwife thing really is just a fetish, free use full time submissive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

My favorite was the one who made cereal from scratch which took hours. It turns out her husband is related to Joseph Smith the creator of Mormonism which is why she had the money to spend her day making a bowl of cereal as she has nannies to do the actual mothering.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My friend wants to know if it's a category on PornHub 😬

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 8 points 1 day ago

Your friend will rest easy. After a few intense moments.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That child is about to get knocked tf out with a football

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

"I'm just toughening you up! Grab some sack, rub some dirt on it, and walk it off, ya fuckin' snowflake!"

ETA: rogue comma

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Oh, you think you're funny calling me 'white supremacy mario.' I'll show you funny you little fucker."

[–] simplejack 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which Mario Brother is the blue one?

[–] EmpathicVagrant 5 points 1 day ago

That’s their grandfather, GPoppy.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The issue is not the ideal. The issue is the methods used to achieve those ideals. Made worse with their denial and repression of others ideals that don't align with their own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The issue is also the disconnect from reality: achieving such an ideal would require policy that is diametrically opposite to what they're pushing for.

(apart from the inherent sexism and racism)

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

No, the idea is inherently patriarchal and racist. The idea is fantasy because, no, people can't afford a home and three kids on a single person's income.

The people who made this work were privileged whites benefiting from generational wealth while the rest got clothes lined by the real fucking world.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The issue is also the ideal, one man, one woman, 2.5 kids, a dog, an incredibly inefficient suburban lifestyle. The American dream was a racist, classist far right fantasy that can't exist at the same time as evel surface level equality under capitalism. Even if you randomize the races and genders involved, you're still effectively living your ideal by submitting to the ideal economic unit for advertisers, not yourself.

It's rotten from the core, and downright evil to want. No matter how you work towards this ideal you're going to trample the rights of others and objectively make the world worse with your existence.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm reading this and I'm not sure you clearly demonstrated your point. Not that you need to answer to me but I wouldn't mind hearing you out.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fair, rephrased and reorganized:

The picture depicts the "American dream" or "nuclear family." This consists of a straight white Christian man with a moderately well paying job, a wife that's exclusively a home maker, two kids of different sex, and at least a dog and two cars in a house with a lawn surrounded by a white picket fence.

This ideal was developed by marketing companies and the US government for a few purposes:

One; it is an incredibly diverse marketing unit. You have an adult male to market towards, an adult female that needs new appliances and groceries, a little bit that will need sports gear and whatever throwaway that like baseball cards, a girl that needs clothes and makeup, a lawn that needs accessories, a stand alone house that needs constant maintenance, two different cars each requiring regular new purchases to maintain. If every family is like this, companies know exactly what to market to who and how to present their products. It also increases and diversifies consumer spending compared to any other household makeup allowable in 1950s America.

In otherwords it's the perfect setup for a capitalist consumer class that will never want better, never want equality, never strive for more. Especially as it's setup as the American dream, the end goal for every true American.

Two; its the opposite of the ussr atheistic communism. While it's a fairly prototypical patriarchal idealist fantasy, it's also well support by the Bible and all major denominations of Christianity, even the American ones. It avoids any controversial beliefs also supported by that faith, say polygamy or underage marriage or anything of that nature. It also acts to separate families into distinct units that can't easily rely on each other for support, promoting individualism versus more traditional multigenerational households common in the ussr.

Because it emphasizes family and individuality while uniquely emphasizing conformity to the norms the government and companies want it's the perfect counter to communist and socialist grass roots support; which traditionally start with comparisons to how (multigenerational) family households take care of each other to achieve a higher standard of living for everyone.

In very short this ideal itself is evil, it is not how most of any humans have lived before the 1950s pretty much anywhere, and was artificially created as an ideal to promote consumerism and fight communism. It's antithetical to the idea of community, commonality or equality.

Not only are the means previously used to reach this ideal evil (see us actions in the early 20th and 19th centuries in regards to colonialism) the concept itself is abhorrent to anyone that has experienced non consumer societies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'd be really interested to see who had a stronger sense of community in the 1950s -Americans who were largely unionized and members of religious communities or Soviets living in a nation that was undergoing purges and famine. Im not sure which one of those had a stronger sense of community but I see no reason to accept that the Soviet union had a greater sense of community just because of a bias against America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

...did you forget black people exist again?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 5 points 1 day ago

Ahh, I get it now. Thank you!

[–] Ghostalmedia 7 points 1 day ago

That man is a stripe shirt away from being a life size My Buddy doll

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (24 children)

You said "we" 8 times without once consulting anyone else if this was actually their experience.

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