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What conservatives don't understand is we know you're full of shit because you raised us. You idealize about a time that never was and we know it because we watched it destroy you. We were all raised in broken homes because you broke them. We watched the war on drugs destroy our neighborhoods because you were the ones who were xenophobic. We know this is all fantasy because we watched you fail and we don't want that for ourselves or anyone.
So please. Keep your fetishes in the bed room.
You said "we" 8 times without once consulting anyone else if this was actually their experience.
Ok, tell me about your fantastical childhood.
Edit: I speak for the people who hid the fact they collected food stamps because they were made ashamed. I speak for the kids in "banana splits" because they didn't understand divorce meant risk. I speak for all the kids in detention and after-school programs and given the label "troubled youths".
So, please tell me about you.
Edit2: "my" trauma comes with data
This was not my experience, except I do agree that the war on drugs has done way more damage than good. The shitty, modern sociopolitical climate you're projecting onto the past simply is not what I remember of the past.
EDIT: Again, speaking for others, as if you're some sort of savior and they are voiceless invalids. Just speak for yourself.
You say that but you were there. Your friends were there. You might even have felt awkward and had to lie about your parents being divorced to fit in. Don't give me some tall tale. Tell me what you saw.
Edit: I'll speak for the people who actually need a voice. It's not trad wife role-playing conservatives. It's people who are now just trying to make ends meet while the world falls to shit around them.
I don't know what to tell you, I had a pretty great childhood despite being low income. My family were fairly apolitical rednecks. I remember them voting Perot at one point, though. I grew up in a multicultural community in the country, mostly white and hispanic. The only drug problems we witnessed were our hippy stoner uncles.
Sorry to burst your bubble, bub.
You had me until "bub." My hippie stoner uncles turned out to also be cocaine addicts, pushers, and pimps. Amazing what adults can hide from kids.
Sorry to hear that. I think mine were fairly harmless, but you're right, people can be great at hiding things. They call them skeletons for a reason, I suppose.
Yes sir. It's time we dig them up and give them a proper burial, and grieve our illusions and dream up a better reality.
Define "low income", bub.
I don't recall my father's take away, but we lived in a trailer in the woods, shopped at Ross, and couldn't take vacations.
Just because my previous comment was removed:
This is not the the fetishized idea of america conservatives get off on. While your life experience is valid it does not represent what this picture is depicting.
...I'd try to get this conversation back on track, but I don't even care.
Hey, I feel your pain through the screen. Maybe lashing out at each other, trying to "own" (what horrible connotations!) each other is what got us here. I'm so sorry and have definitely been where you are, emotionally, for way too long. We can't really control others. We can manage ourselves and our own emotions, though.
I was gifted these cards a couple of months ago by Caroline Myss, Archetype Cards. They have several archetypes in light and dark aspects, things we keep hidden from ourselves, about ourselves, and several blank to name the shadow archetypes within ourselves and a little booklet to help us do the work on ourselves. Maybe you have a used bookstore nearby you could see if they have any or post on Craigslist or something for a set, or if you have a birthday coming could ask to be gifted them when friends ask, like, "could you chip in"?
The thing about shadow work - it's painful and messy and works best if you can do it when you're feeling those awful feelings, which isn't always possible. At least try to take time off screen to get the best rest you can, and try to get as balanced nutrition you can afford. I got 5 lbs of potatoes for $3, a small bag of baby carrots for $2.50 and a pound of frozen green beans for $1.25 at Dollar Tree (full of Steve and strings, but workable), and cooked then today in left over chicken broth from chicken I stewed earlier this week, and tossed in leftover chicken $6/5 lbs). I have leftovers for tomorrow and another container in the freezer for another day, plus gifted a neighbor s pint container. I know prices very wildly, but I live in a food desert, so a week's with of meals, plus a pint to gift for about $20. My friend gifted me some small sweet potatoes from church, so I look forward to those, upcoming.
I mean, I can win by blocking you.
Smart move. Some people can not move past their trauma and just lash out, but with Poochie it seems to be next level.
Maybe if we stopped trying to trigger each other and help each other heal, we can get on with more serious business of healing, ourselves and each other, while also focusing on building a better nation, that's stronger because we govern ourselves and mind our own business, not trying to govern others, individuals or nations.
Tell me more about my trauma because you haven't even scratched the surface
This is what the kleptocrats want. We're not each others' obstacle. We need to come together.
I have no qualm curating my experience here. However, this was indeed my initial mistake, engaging in the first place.
I almost blocked you, once. Then I thought, "but they have so much of value to offer not the few comments I've seen that irked me." Before my attitude shift. United we stand, divided we fall.
No harm no foul. This platform is a tool to be used to different ends.
As you will. I'm finding a gulf between my child-self will and adult-self will (id and superego, I suppose). I'm hoping my middle self can bring them into alignment. It's a pita, but I imagine almost everything truly fulfilling is. At any rate, I'm glad I didn't block you.
Do me the pleasure