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What conservatives don't understand is we know you're full of shit because you raised us. You idealize about a time that never was and we know it because we watched it destroy you. We were all raised in broken homes because you broke them. We watched the war on drugs destroy our neighborhoods because you were the ones who were xenophobic. We know this is all fantasy because we watched you fail and we don't want that for ourselves or anyone.

So please. Keep your fetishes in the bed room.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm reading this and I'm not sure you clearly demonstrated your point. Not that you need to answer to me but I wouldn't mind hearing you out.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fair, rephrased and reorganized:

The picture depicts the "American dream" or "nuclear family." This consists of a straight white Christian man with a moderately well paying job, a wife that's exclusively a home maker, two kids of different sex, and at least a dog and two cars in a house with a lawn surrounded by a white picket fence.

This ideal was developed by marketing companies and the US government for a few purposes:

One; it is an incredibly diverse marketing unit. You have an adult male to market towards, an adult female that needs new appliances and groceries, a little bit that will need sports gear and whatever throwaway that like baseball cards, a girl that needs clothes and makeup, a lawn that needs accessories, a stand alone house that needs constant maintenance, two different cars each requiring regular new purchases to maintain. If every family is like this, companies know exactly what to market to who and how to present their products. It also increases and diversifies consumer spending compared to any other household makeup allowable in 1950s America.

In otherwords it's the perfect setup for a capitalist consumer class that will never want better, never want equality, never strive for more. Especially as it's setup as the American dream, the end goal for every true American.

Two; its the opposite of the ussr atheistic communism. While it's a fairly prototypical patriarchal idealist fantasy, it's also well support by the Bible and all major denominations of Christianity, even the American ones. It avoids any controversial beliefs also supported by that faith, say polygamy or underage marriage or anything of that nature. It also acts to separate families into distinct units that can't easily rely on each other for support, promoting individualism versus more traditional multigenerational households common in the ussr.

Because it emphasizes family and individuality while uniquely emphasizing conformity to the norms the government and companies want it's the perfect counter to communist and socialist grass roots support; which traditionally start with comparisons to how (multigenerational) family households take care of each other to achieve a higher standard of living for everyone.

In very short this ideal itself is evil, it is not how most of any humans have lived before the 1950s pretty much anywhere, and was artificially created as an ideal to promote consumerism and fight communism. It's antithetical to the idea of community, commonality or equality.

Not only are the means previously used to reach this ideal evil (see us actions in the early 20th and 19th centuries in regards to colonialism) the concept itself is abhorrent to anyone that has experienced non consumer societies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd be really interested to see who had a stronger sense of community in the 1950s -Americans who were largely unionized and members of religious communities or Soviets living in a nation that was undergoing purges and famine. Im not sure which one of those had a stronger sense of community but I see no reason to accept that the Soviet union had a greater sense of community just because of a bias against America.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...did you forget black people exist again?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 5 points 1 day ago

Ahh, I get it now. Thank you!