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Seriously, where are 99% of the life begins at conception people on the meat industry?

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[–] DragonsInARoom 15 points 6 hours ago

One single HUMAN cell, everyone knows humans are above all animals

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's racism. They think human lives are more important than other races.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago

It is so prevalent that this type of bigotry actually has its own name: specieism

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

But that's different!

Honestly though, is "but it's different" a proper informal fallacy?

[–] alquicksilver 68 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

If you're really being serious, then the answer is that most (or, at least, the vocal majority) of those people don't even really care about living children. I don't see that type of person generally giving any more care to a non-human being than they would a human being, and they already don't care about people other than themselves.

"Pro-life" has always been a misnomer. More honest descriptions would be "anti-choice" or "pro-forced birth."

[–] cogman 5 points 4 hours ago

It's anti-woman.

The real true reason most people are against abortion isn't because they don't believe it's a necessity. It's because they are afraid that some woman won't be punished for having sex. Whether or not the fetus survives isn't the point, it's that someone has to be punished for enjoying life.

[–] SlopppyEngineer 14 points 13 hours ago

Pro-life

In their mind, is still just breeding more cheap disposable labor

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Serious in that they should stand up for non-human animals, but in the kind of way where you also know the answer as to why 99% aren't

[–] Matriks404 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

These are two separate problems, and as for "pro-choice" and "pro-life" I wouldn't group people just in these two ways, because if somebody supports abortion, but not in all cases, where does this put them?

Also life beginning at conception has nothing to do whether or not it's a conscious life. But you could debate at what point there's consciousness, what it even is and whether or not animals have the same "type" of consciousness. It's all moral issues, and you can never solve them, because there's no right answer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They are pro-birth. They are absolutely not pro-life.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think they're anti-woman.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Think? We fucking know.

[–] PigStyle 22 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Some of them explain this away with "Humans have souls, animals don't".

[–] SlopppyEngineer 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently that soul doesn't matter when trying to prevent it from dying from preventable diseases with vaccines and nurturing it with affordable education.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Don't you know it's much more preferable for your child to die of a preventable illness than for them to get autism from vaccines which is totally a thing that happens?

/s of course

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

When I infodump for 2 hours straight I can see why they would prefer if I died /s

[–] SlopppyEngineer 3 points 11 hours ago

It's even worse. One of the contributing factors for autism is fine dust particles in pollution from fossil fuels. And the ones against vaccines are often also the ones for fossil fuels.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And yet many can be up in arms about dogs & cats being eaten in some regions despite that claim

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

dogs go to dog heaven, duh
of they got souls! /s

[–] Iheartcheese 17 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah but if babies were delicious we would eat them too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm told humans taste like pork.

[–] KombatWombat 1 points 1 hour ago

Some cultures that actually have cannibalism refer to human flesh as "long pig" or similar because of the resemblance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is this implying you know for certain that human babies aren't? Maybe we should be a little concerned how you figured that one out

[–] Iheartcheese 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So I ate a baby big whoop wanna fight about it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

Baby Big Whoop? Damn there's a whole product line now?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've got a modest proposal for you...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

I wanted to say that but wasn't swift enough.

[–] Skullgrid -1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago) (1 children)

Seriously, where are 99% of the life begins at conception people on the meat industry?

hunting and eating steaks, singing

This is necessary, life feeds on life feeds on life...

I think that being vegan/vegetarian is more ethical than eating meat due to the use of resources, treatment of animals etc.

But this kind of dumbass shit doesn't help your cause.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand your stance. Being vegan is more ethical, but eating meat is necessary? Surely if meat is necessary then an omnivorous diet is most ethical?

[–] Skullgrid 4 points 5 hours ago

the song is meant to be what the conception people think, but...

it is necessary for certain people, and it's easier to achieve certain things by eating meat/animal products. I am an omnivore, but I understand that veganism is more ideal, I just don't have the capability of achieving it (I can't even eat properly on an omnivore diet).