Thoughts and prayers to the bullets that were wasted
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Oh no, don't make the entire corrupt insurance industry fear for their lives... that would be horrible...
Reddit must Be censoring this was never on the front page and it should have been
SAIF is a state-chartered not-for-profit and the largest workers’ compensation agency in Oregon. Terhune has been CEO of SAIF since 2021, when his base salary was $500,000. While his exact salary is not reported, he has he regularly received raises and “incentive payments” of 35-40%, according to SAIF’s annual reports. In 2024, according to calculations from the 2021 base salary, Terhune’s salary was around $562,323 and his bonus amounted to something like $216,000.
Despite being a "not for profit," it sure seems like the CEO made a lot of profit for themself.
The median salary for full-time workers in Oregon is $61,671.
SAIF's nonprofit status has no bearing on how they pay out. They still move to close claims as quickly as possible, they still use shill doctors who aren't good enough to practice as "independent" medical examiners to deny claims and they still sell people's claims to managed care organizations that are for-profit and make more money by denying care. Getting injured on the job and needing care as a result in Oregon is a bad time.
SAIF exists because Oregon law says it exists, and like many entities that exist entirely because of legislation it does the bare minimum of what the law says it does.
I had a thought recently that could maybe make health insurance a little more fair here in the US. If we required the people who approve or deny claims at health insurance agencies to carry malpractice insurance and allowed them to be sued for medical malpractice when their claim denial led to adverse health outcomes, we could (maybe) make them think twice about denying claims.
Obviously trying to help people isn't a functional incentive for them, but maybe not getting sued would work.
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I mean, what was the CEO wearing? Maybe they should think more about their own safety... there's common sense precautions that can be taken, like not being the CEO of an American for-profit healthcare company.
Oh no. Anyway...
Camera footage looks like Bigfoot.
TBTP Raised the stakes, charging Luigi with terrorism.. Don't think they won't charge this person if caught with the same thing.
My thoughts and prayers are with the shooter in this difficult time
The article mentioned that SAIF is a non profit health insurance company where the executives are reasonably paid and don't have massive security teams
Receiving approximately a million dollars a year is not reasonable at a non-profit.
How else can you pay people who are working at a non profit? Thank you's dont pay bills, but neither taking home half a million in the name of non-profit.
How much of that money goes to those executives and their "vacations" aka fundraising?
Oh, don't worry. They don't have to pay for those fund raising vacations out of pocket. It comes from the non-profit's budget.
SAIF is a state run public corporation directed by a board appointed by the governor to operate a needed service for the benefit of the public. Its structure is similar to Amtrak. This is not a good target at all for anti for profit healthcare protest. (Even if the CEO is still paid too much)
Tell me you've never had to deal with SAIF without telling me you've never had to deal with SAIF. Nonprofit insurance companies are still insurance companies and they aren't your friend under any circumstances. The going advice in Oregon is to hire a lawyer as soon as you can when dealing with SAIF because they are set up to filter out anyone who won't fight as hard as they can for the benefits they've paid into.
God help you if you have a mental health claim, SAIF will tear into your life as deeply as they can to find a reason to not pay for a therapist. Those bloodsuckers wanted ALL of my medical records going back to childhood when I wanted to talk to a counselor after I saw my coworker get badly injured on the job and they told me it would take at least 6 months to accept or deny my claim, even though Oregon law says they only have 60 days to do it. Lawyers told me that even though I was right, Oregon workers comp is tilted so far away from the worker that it wasn't worth their time, since they only get paid if they make SAIF accept a claim they had previously denied.
Gotta admit I can't argue here, I only briefly had to deal with SAIF for a pretty minor on the job injury that did not result in any paid time loss and I barely had to think about it, just went to the doctor and didn't pay anything a few times. Easy to imagine that experience is not universal to more serious issues.
Their CEO makes something like 3/4 of a million $ /year... Hardly a civil servant's salary.
Funny how they stop being "stray" bullets when they enter the homes of the rich.
These were definitely stray bullets - they missed.
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Yeah, I've got some tips..
One, don't be a moron and send threatening emails before the job is done, that just puts people on alert and makes it more likely you get caught, especially considering traceability of email.
Two, don't fire blindly into a house you colossal moron, you can probably find a hiding spot good enough to wait until your target comes outside so you can get a clear shot.
Three, don't pull out the gun until you've got a confirmed target, and don't pull the trigger unless you're goddamn sure you got a killing shot, on the right target. Remember one of the things everyone likes about Luigi is that he was successful, and the other thing everyone likes is he didn't hurt anyone.
And four, if successful, once you get out of the immediate area, make sure not to be carrying around any goddamn incriminating evidence.
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Luigi went from epic mastermind assassin to getting busted in a shitty fast food place with tons of incriminating evidence on his person. This bullshit needs a "epstein didn't kill himself" level meme
I mean yeah, I’ve been saying he was a patsy since the day he was arrested. The dude manages to evade capture for an entire week, then gets caught with a written manifesto and the entire (easily disassembled and broken into pieces to be scattered where cops will never find the entire thing) ghost gun fully intact? The entire thing smells like “accidentally” disabled body cams and planted evidence.
Yeah, especially the ghost gun thing. The point of having that is to get rid of it when you're done and it can't be traced. Why go through the effort of getting a ghost gun if you're going to keep it? It doesn't make sense.
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If the end goal is to thin the herd, yeah, all those points matter.
If the goal is to terrify the CEOs into compliance or get them to take an early retirement package, threats and potshots will do fine.
Still should consider not using email, though.
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This, especially the first point. When 9/11/2001 happened, the world had no clue it was coming. It was planned and then executed. There were no threats, no messages; bin-Laden didn't release a statement until after the attacks were carried out. They just did it, they didn't talk about doing it.
IIRC, the US knew it was coming but ignored the Intel.
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It’s a shame the CEO was okay.
Homies gotta put in more time at the range before attempting to file a claim directly with the CEO.
Oh no! Anyway,
Yeah, kinda slow around here. Wishing for warmer weather, and Spring. I did plant some cilantro and broccoli in cold frames, just to keep myself amused. Anything fun up in your neighborhood?
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Police just released more footage of the alleged perpetrator.
I can't believe that in 2025 people still believe in Bigfoot. That is so obviously just a Yeti in a gorilla suit.
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Could just be an accident right? Theres so many guns in the US and also the cops shoot and miss all the time.
UK cautions its travelers to the US to avoid walking around alone at night, and almost every country warns travelers that the US is a more violence-prone place and full of firearms than they are used to.
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This is ABHORRENT! PLEASE only Shoot up Children in School INSTEAD of Rich People who Kill MILLIONS each year!
This isn't even a good target for the outrage....
I get Luiging some healthcare insurance. But a state ran nonprofit for workers comp access with a CEO who makes 2x the salary of a mid level Netflix dev isn't exactly the big bad guy here.
I'm all for it, but can we choose more wisely?
You gotta shoot up the children of the CEO's. Make them hurt like every family of someone who has died because they were denied care. Make being a healthcare CEO a pariah. Make them afraid not only for their own lives, but for the lives of everyone around them. Make associating with them as risky as riding shotgun with a supremely drunken manic-depressive in a Swastikar on the autobahn at midnight in the dead of winter.
Make being a healthcare CEO the most dangerous job on the planet, and being friends/family with them only slightly less risky.
children of the CEOs*
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I saw the guy! He was tall, wearing all green, with a hat with an "L" on it.
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On an entirely unrelated note, check out this neat photo of some geodes:
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I can't tell if they posted his income to say he is paid too much or too little... It's a weird thing to include, it didn't seem to fit the article at all.
Poor guy getting shot at and doesn't even make a million a year. Absolute tragedy.
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Why the fuck would I rat this man out?!
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