Luigi Mangione

SAIF's nonprofit status has no bearing on how they pay out. They still move to close claims as quickly as possible, they still use shill doctors who aren't good enough to practice as "independent" medical examiners to deny claims and they still sell people's claims to managed care organizations that are for-profit and make more money by denying care. Getting injured on the job and needing care as a result in Oregon is a bad time.

SAIF exists because Oregon law says it exists, and like many entities that exist entirely because of legislation it does the bare minimum of what the law says it does.

it sure seems like the CEO made a lot of profit for themself.

My inner grammar nazi forces me to comment: It's himself, herself or themselves.

Tell me you've never had to deal with SAIF without telling me you've never had to deal with SAIF. Nonprofit insurance companies are still insurance companies and they aren't your friend under any circumstances. The going advice in Oregon is to hire a lawyer as soon as you can when dealing with SAIF because they are set up to filter out anyone who won't fight as hard as they can for the benefits they've paid into.

God help you if you have a mental health claim, SAIF will tear into your life as deeply as they can to find a reason to not pay for a therapist. Those bloodsuckers wanted ALL of my medical records going back to childhood when I wanted to talk to a counselor after I saw my coworker get badly injured on the job and they told me it would take at least 6 months to accept or deny my claim, even though Oregon law says they only have 60 days to do it. Lawyers told me that even though I was right, Oregon workers comp is tilted so far away from the worker that it wasn't worth their time, since they only get paid if they make SAIF accept a claim they had previously denied.

Their CEO makes something like 3/4 of a million $ /year... Hardly a civil servant's salary.

The article mentioned that SAIF is a non profit health insurance company where the executives are reasonably paid and don't have massive security teams

These were definitely stray bullets - they missed.

If the end goal is to thin the herd, yeah, all those points matter.

If the goal is to terrify the CEOs into compliance or get them to take an early retirement package, threats and potshots will do fine.

Still should consider not using email, though.

furiously nodding and taking notes

This, especially the first point. When 9/11/2001 happened, the world had no clue it was coming. It was planned and then executed. There were no threats, no messages; bin-Laden didn't release a statement until after the attacks were carried out. They just did it, they didn't talk about doing it.

Yeah, kinda slow around here. Wishing for warmer weather, and Spring. I did plant some cilantro and broccoli in cold frames, just to keep myself amused. Anything fun up in your neighborhood?

I can't believe that in 2025 people still believe in Bigfoot. That is so obviously just a Yeti in a gorilla suit.

This isn't even a good target for the outrage....

I get Luiging some healthcare insurance. But a state ran nonprofit for workers comp access with a CEO who makes 2x the salary of a mid level Netflix dev isn't exactly the big bad guy here.

I'm all for it, but can we choose more wisely?

Put your hands together.

You gotta shoot up the children of the CEO's. Make them hurt like every family of someone who has died because they were denied care. Make being a healthcare CEO a pariah. Make them afraid not only for their own lives, but for the lives of everyone around them. Make associating with them as risky as riding shotgun with a supremely drunken manic-depressive in a Swastikar on the autobahn at midnight in the dead of winter.

Make being a healthcare CEO the most dangerous job on the planet, and being friends/family with them only slightly less risky.