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[–] iAvicenna 4 points 4 hours ago

Yea people think he means CDU but given he is literally a fascist grandpa it is more like that he is either confusing CDU with AfD or thinks that AfD has won because of all the ruckus going on

[–] Treczoks 4 points 5 hours ago

Jokes on him. What he sees as German conservatives is mostly in line with US Democrats. The German version of the Republicans are the AfD, the Nazi party.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

why is there a trump tweet on my all, better block this community

[–] Raiderkev 1 points 7 hours ago

It's actually a "Truth"

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Notice how Trump considers America to be under him.

Not just in this text, but in all of his actions as well. He has no intention to be a responsible leader, he intends to rule, and to do so with impunity.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (15 children)

The AfD is only second strongest party. Also, no matter what anyone says. The real winners are the leftist party who got 8.7%.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm fairly far left but the strong LINKE might actually fuck us over pretty hard. They are strong enough that they’re able to block increased defense spending together with the AfD in a time where increased national and European security might just be our most existential issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They are strong enough that they’re able to block increased defense spending together with the AfD

Does Germany have some rules that defence spending requires a 2/3rds supermajority or something? Linke and AfD cannot stop anything on their own if a simple majority is required. The Union and SPD have a slim majority between them, and add the Greens and you've got an extremely strong majority.

[–] Tudsamfa 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The only way the conservatives get the funding for increased arms manufacturing is by disabling/changing something about the debt ceiling.

Debt ceiling is in the basic law (constitution), which requires a 2/3 majority to be altered.

Linke are against the debt ceiling in general, but not if it's only disabled for military spending while still preventing investments in public infrastructure. I think with a bit of diplomacy and concessions in the wording, Linke can be persuaded here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Oh yeah I've heard some commentators talking about the debt brake before, and how some are pushing to do away with it. It didn't occur to me that military spending would specifically be the sticking point there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The real winners are the leftist party who got 8.7%.

Probably most of those voters voted SPD or die Grüne before but lost trust. Happened in Belgium too...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yep. SPD lost way more to Union and AfD, though, and the Greens got out of this whole thing relatively unscathed, they have a quite stable basis.

Fun fact: Die Linke gained more voters from CDU and FDP than they lost to the AfD.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

GOOD TO SEE HE HAS NOW PICKED UP OLD MAN CAPS LOCK SYNDROME

[–] CouncilOfFriends 1 points 3 hours ago

I just assumed he was yelling it over the sound of a helicopter as usual

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Not really new, he's always done it often

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

so rich and can't afford a keyboard with a working capslock key

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

My elderly relatives type like that when they want to make sure people know they're very serious people with important opinions about the price of milk and Barack Obama being a secret homosexual.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tell me you dont know shit about the german voting system without telling me you dont know shit about the german voting system.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Do not discredit our supreme leader. His knowledge of the German voting system is equally refined as all his other knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Trump you arent conservative Also you clearly dont understand how we do governments over here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

He doesn't understand how they do government in America, and he's in charge of it.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Dude does not understand how german elections work lmao. Nobody won that election, the conservatives got 28% of the vote. There will be at least a 3 party coalition and things could become pretty complicated.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (17 children)

I'm not usually one to agree with trump, but doubling your representation in a single election is a win. An incredibly concerning win, in this case. It bodes poorly.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

The (almost extremist) "conservatives" gained like 3 percent points or something since the last election. Plus, they have been in the government for like 80% of the time since WW2. Trump is soooo anti establishment but these guys ARE the most establishment anyone in Germany could be. They are not the solution to people’s problems, they are the ones who caused many of the problems in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The "conservative party" is the CDU/CSU, and even though they won, they just had their second worst result since the 1950s.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Germans are very much like Americans, they like to Moralize and act like they got their shit together, and pretend like they’re all enlightened, but their people are just as fucked up as Americans sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a win for the party, but a win for the party is different from winning the election.

In the last Australian federal election, the Greens quadrupled their number of seats. It was absolutely a huge win for the Greens. But going from 0.7% of seats to 2.6% cannot mean you "won" the election. (Also...wow...that shows just how gross single winner elections are. Even with preferential voting. When a party that consistently gets over 10% of the votes is able to win less than 3% of seats and call that a huge win. Proportional systems like Germany's MMP are amazing!)

Whether you want to say the CDU/CSU "won" the German election, IMO, depends less on how their vote changed relative to the last election, and more on whether you want to say the party that ends up selecting the Chancellor "won" an election, even if they need to go into a three party coalition. My personal take is that yes, it's not unreasonable to say they won.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Since FDP and BSW didnt make it into the parliament SPD, CDU should be able to form a coalition. Only Problem, the SPD Chancellor candidate announced they dont want to coalate with the CDU. We may see the same Situation as in Austria.

[–] umfk 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Scholz only said that he personality doesn't want to do the coalition talks. Someone else from the SPD will do them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Ah, than I misunderstood him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the SPD Chancellor candidate announced they dont want to coalate with the CDU.

I thought Scholz announced that he would step back since he wouldn't be able to be chancellor? (If I read the Dutch news right.) Which is something else from blocking a CDU coalition.

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[–] JubilantJaguar 42 points 1 day ago

This cannot be said enough to Anglosphericals, even the well-informed ones sometimes don't get it. Under proportional representation, you almost never "win" an election and that's the point.

It's a classic misunderstanding between two political different cultures. I remember once a German state election, I think it was Baden-Würtemberg, where the first-placed party had no friends so the parties #2 and #3 (the Greens were one) formed the government. The Anglo press just did not get it - a "the losers ganged up on the winners"! How could Germans possibly accept this travesty of democracy??! But the second and third parties agreed on more things, and between them they had far more votes! It was arguably more democratic than the outcome of a classic first-past-the-post election in Britain or the USA.

This silly obsession with winners and losers was why the Tories dominated 20th-century British politics even though Labour and the Liberals often had more support between them. It's arguably what sunk the UK LibDems' referendum on electoral reform under the Cameron government. And then a few years later Brexit got 51.9%, which for Brits was obviously a resounding victory so most of the the other 48.1% didn't even complain about literally losing their EU citizenship. The winner-loser culture goes deep for Anglos but it doesn't always serve them well.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago

Who is the “GENTLEMAN NAMED DONALD J. TRUMP”? I know of no such person. I know who Donald J. Trump is, but he is most certainly not a “gentleman” by any definition I’m familiar with.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, our projected future chancellor is very similar to Trump in certain aspects, especially rhetorics and spitting bullshit, then being utterly incompetent when asked specifics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Fritz von Papen.

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