I might not be good for much. But bringing this up whenever he is mentioned is easy. Will do π«‘
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I never forgot. I love this meme so much.
Thing is, there's multiple billionaires who could afford to do it for 6bn and they're not doing it either, so every time we talk about billionaires it should be mentioned that they have the power to end most of humanity's suffering but decide not to do it.
Yeah. For a long time I defended Musk, for the simple reason that, yes, he's weird and seems like a sociopath, but at least he's trying. He wants electric cars. He wants Mars. That's enough. Most billionaires just want an invite to Epstein's island, or to displace a village somewhere to build a new factory.
Those days have ended, now that it's become clear that Musk wants an entire Epstein's-Island enclave just for himself and his "family," and actively works to destroy people who are working on electric cars if they interfere with his quest to get all the credit for everything.
I'm in a similar boat. Seems like there was a big marketing / branding push for him to be seen that way in those years, or maybe it was just media doing media stuff (regurgitating and iterating on successful content). And then I stopped paying attention to him, and then he made weird ass comments during that cave rescue situation, and then it's been just rapid fire incidents ranging from embarrassingly childish to shockingly brazen leading to today. Apologies if I've misremembered the timeline, but I seem to remember that as my "wait wtf" turning point with him.
Went from thinking "huh, smart driven guy working on difficult problems few others will" to realizing he's among the most threatening forces working against humanity today, while also a thin-skinned man-baby. Pretty crazy swing. If he'd have kept his crazy under wraps...like...just literally didn't spew it on social media constantly, that one change alone...we'd probably never have realized.
That was him not talking. Media guys can paint a unicorn from everyone when they are static. Or, in Bezos's case, he just have no media coverage like many other rich people.
Musk being Musk publicly is what switched him from the Iron Man type figure to a deranged aged imbecile on drugs talking in zoomer slang. If you want to cringe a lot, watch a meme review with him: https://youtu.be/oJHb5a3ggzE He's that stupid and vocal no one can save him.
You're not wrong, I just don't think it's the whole story. I really do think there was a media campaign of different kinds (podcasts and other "intellectual" media) for a period to create an intentional public image. I mean maybe his rise in the public awareness was organic, I just don't think so anymore.
I am fairly sure a campaign like that was used to elevate JD Vance, there was also this Eric Weinstein guy that was appearing a lot in stuff I saw for a while, those two both closely associated with Peter Thiel. I can probably come up with other examples. I think Musk had a similar "look how smart and great this guy is, everyone!" campaign, and I think the difference is Musk had enough money that he could afford not to rely solely on that image, and he had enough ego that he could never not be himself online for long.
I do believe that he changed. He was always a narcissistic sociopath, but he was also invested in advancing humanity.
And then came his hate for the US government when they tried to tell him what to do, repeatedly, and his obsession with Twitter.
I do believe that he changed. He was always a narcissistic sociopath, but he was also invested in advancing humanity.
Watch the video I posted. I used to think that, but I now think that it was always just a shtick he was doing for self-aggrandizement. You'll notice that he totally abandoned it, with prejudice, as soon as he could become more self-aggrandized by being a super-MAGA guy than he could be being a super-climate guy.
Ketamine is also a hell of a drug
"he wants Mars"
All experts agree that being interested in Mars because we want to put boots on the ground is moronic.
I'm not even saying the specific details of what he wants are good (and, in fact, it's now clear that they are not, and he likes saying super-ambitious stuff that is unrealistic because he thinks it makes him sound more visionary than the people who are trying to explain why it all won't work.)
I'm just saying that wanting Mars used to put him a leg up in my mind over people who just wanted their stock price to go up and did not want Mars. I'm okay with my heroes being unrealistic, all other things being equal.
Many of them are rich because they cause the suffering you're asking them to relieve.
Scarcity is is essential to capitalism.
Many do die as capitalists literally destroy food to maintain scarcity.
I can only surmise that humans are largely happy with this arrangement, with vulnerable humans dying to maintain oligarch profit/metastasis expectations, because the global capital markets haven't been burned to the ground for their relentless and celebratory sociopathic inhumanity. π€·
Friendly reminder, don't forget to shake your fist at your local homeless encampment on the way to work for lowering your local property values with their continued inconvenient existence!
American corn is a colonization tool.
why just 'end world hunger' when you can 'end the world', instead?
Build a man a fire and he's warm for the night, set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Itβs simple! Feed a man for a day and heβll just be hungry tomorrowβ¦ Starve a man to death and heβll never need to eat again!
Technically, ending the world DOES end world hunger.
Did this happen? I find it believable, but seek confirmation.
Post this in the op or as a comment. It's not exactly as portrayed, but still didn't change the fact that he could help 42 million people with hunger and he basically brushed it off
It's very much as portrayed. If he'd been at all serious, he would have at least answered them after they spent weeks putting together a detailed plan for him about what could be done with the money and making one of the biggest humanitarian strides the world has ever seen. I don't think any kind of theoretical distance between the plan and "ending world hunger" excuses that.
can't tell if this is better or worse than Scott's tots
Can still do it. For less than the price he paid to buy Trump...
I have a plan to end world hunger, though I don't know if there's enough elon to go around.
Thatβs okay. If we run out, we can then use his billions to feed the rest.
Props for auditing or whatever, why is it so hard for us to audit? But something sucks about elon doing it. I guess anyone doing it will have their downsides. Elon, you need to become he devil, not satan, the devil doesn't lie, or deceive. The devil says truth that angers. If I'm not mistaken they are not the same. I be;eive you are in a position to be the devil, by accounts of the slavers that wrote the bible, for exposing certain things. But again it's just a story, just like netflix. So none of it really matters.
Ending World Hunger is SOCIALISM!
-Americans trying to Save The Children!
The Children:
Can we please have that gravestone rather sooner than later?
Be the change you want to see.