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I’m an American who lives in the UK and I’ll go to war for you guys before I ever go for the US military.
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American who's lived his whole life stateside. Agreed.
Inasmuch as we can, yeah. None of our planning so far has allowed for the possibility of Moronica turning into a loose cannon and going around threatening all its friends and allies. As with Ukraine, if Moronica decides you're fucked, you're fucked, and there's not a whole lot we can do about it.
If none of your planning prepared you for that, you need new planners.
France here, our mainstream media is currently either billionaire-owned and pushing Trump and Musk admiration or publicly owned but influenced by our current government (Macron and co.) which does everything possible to cosy up to billionaires so they haven't yet (and probably never will) called Trump a fascist or Musk a neo-nazi.
You came and died in France during two world wars in the 20th century but I'm afraid France as a nation isn't gonna have your back in this timeline - except if we manage to elect a real-left government next time.
Good luck!
I was kind of expecting this, thanks for your honesty. Many people in Canadian sub talk about NATO’s article 5, but the truth is nobody can send military gear to the nose of US navy and aviation across the Atlantic. An article 5 would be nationalization of US asset in Europe, reversing all investment in the US and maybe expelling the US from military bases in Germany. Not much would be done on Canadian ground.
Free media and journalists encouraged to dig deep and challenge things is a big part of democracy.
TIL about article 5, thanks!
I really hope mimitary action won't happen...
realize this.
should conflict take place, it's only to trap Americans and stop them from escaping to Canada.
second objective is to make distractions.
third is to take Canada.
What does it really mean to have each-other's backs?
I think one thing would be making some agreements in advance when it comes to refugees. Make it easier for Canadians to escape to the EU if the US does something stupid, and make it easier for Europeans to move to Canada if Russia does something crazy.
Other than that, I don't know what immediate steps could really be done. I'd love it if Canada would adopt some of the European privacy regulations, ditching the American-style laws currently in effect. But, a lot of things wouldn't be easy to change. Our cars, appliances, construction techniques, electricity voltages, plug designs, etc. are all very American-style, and those kinds of things have a lot of momentum.
But, I don't really see a downside to making the movement of people a little easier. I think plenty of Canadians would love to live and work in Europe. I think a fair number of Europeans would love to live and work in Canada -- at least once Canada finally adopts proper vacation lengths, parental leave laws, etc.
Canada would be happy with most if not all of Europe’s privacy laws once we choose to ignore US interest.
Quebec has some decent parental leave and the current federal government (Liberal-NDP) wants a nationwide implementation.
Electricity could stay different just like UK didn’t use the Euro when they where member. Most other laws should be Europe inspired even if we ‘compete’ with the US deregulation. I would love agriculture related laws to be harmonized to the high standard in Europe.
There's already EU territory with 110V systems, even 60Hz, or more precisely said Guyana is a clusterfuck of different systems. Standardisation would be nice but it does have limited market impact so the EU is comfortable to just not. Also the main reason European stoves won't work as intended in Canada isn't 220V, you do have 220V, but because they're expecting three 220V phases to be fully powered, they can pull up to 13kW with everything at full tilt. Most can be configured to draw less and be hooked up to a single phase, though, you could use those. Modern DC converters don't mind the differing voltages and frequencies in the first place and with DC motors being quite popular making e.g. a blender dual-voltage is actually quite simple, which leaves us with things like hair dryers and I mean who cares.
Australia too, we got ya..
FWIW, most people in blue states would probably have your backs too. The province most at risk would probably be Alberta, which... is Alberta
yes i am the president of those countries im glad you asked
Wait... UK, doesn't have a president... I think this guy isn't legit!
If it ever comes to it you can count on me. Sorry we put you guys in this position.
Most Americans have your back too...it's just our messed up voting and education systems that let the lunatic fringe gain all the power. For a representative democracy, it really doesn't represent the people.
According the most recent elections, most Americans don't.
There has to be a point where Americans who don't support chaos stop saying "this isn't who we really are" and start admitting "huh, I guess we're assholes now."
Hell yeah, im just waiting for a blue state to announce intention to secede and join the EU. But that might be messy.
;(
A messy dream.
States cant secede without war. It is a kinda silly dream anyway. It is better to let the red states rot and have a display of how their ideals fail and how blue states flourish, then take our country back, then go through the insane process of digging out the roots and backdoors they are rushing to put in place as we speak
Hey, Canada! Have you considered EU membership?
I don't think Canada should fully be in the EU, but some kind of set of bilateral arrangements like Switzerland has would be a good start.
Since Canada has lots of historical ties with the UK, it might work out well to have some kind of arrangement with the UK, Canada and the EU. That would let Britain start to undo some of the damage from Brexit, while also allowing Canada to reinforce those ties to the UK.
We didn't know we had that option. But hell yeah... what do we have to do? Make Google and Apple put a "West Europe" label over Canada?
"West West Europe"
I would honestly be stoked
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i was wondering around Berlin once upon a time. in the park behind the parliament.
a slightly overly helpful german said "excuse me. are you lost?" i mumbled "no no, not really"
they walked beside me for a bit and said "ah you are english. i will take you to the parliament it's just over there". and i agreed
then they said "your boys died for my country" which really took my breath away
so yeah we got your back cananadia. that's what we do when the fundamentalists kick off. even if we have to die
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