My bet is they won't get paid what's been promised to them because that's been the conman's modus operandi since forever.
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But in this case it's not his money.
Except that's why it actually matters. He controls his own finances, but Congress controls the government's. If the continued pay they're promising isn't accounted for in legislation, bad advice from the president or Elon doesn't force the government to pay
That's part of the absurdity here. Mump is arguing that Congress doesn't appropriate money for agencies, they simply set the ceiling for how much money those agencies or programs should receive. It is the president, he says, who decides the floor for that number. Apparently every other president we've had just went along with Congress, I guess? Only this stable genius figured out this one loophole that Congresspeople hate!
Yeah, I'd argue setting any amount different than what was appropriated by Congress, isn't faithful execution of the laws which is required of the president
Not yet
Them seizing the whole payment system pretty much means it now is.
Hold it it up in the justice system for the sake of efficienxy.
They're never going to get paid. He's going to leave them high and dry
It's not his money, so I don't see why he'd care either way. Seems easier to pay.
How many of those 75,000 are a few months from retirement anyway?
Of the handful of people I know of, most were retiring anyway. They're basically getting 7 months of paid leave. I wished one person a happy retirement last week and then "welcome back" this week. They're working until the end of February.
Of the one person I know that isn't eligible for retirement, they were planning on leaving anyway due to circumstances in their family.
What I'm interested in is how many of those people will be back by October as contractors. I've seen it before where someone retires and then a few months later they're back working in a similar job. Just because someone leaves gov services doesn't mean their skill sets aren't in demand.
Of the one person I know that isn’t eligible for retirement, they were planning on leaving anyway due to circumstances in their family.
That was going to be my second question- how many were not retiring, but were planning on leaving for other reasons? How many had a new job lined up before Trump even took office?
These idiots put no restrictions on this offer. And despite that, 75,000 is still far lower than the number of federal employees who retired per year in the past 10 years according to OPM.
https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/retirement-statistics/
So that means even plenty of people who would entirely benefit from this offer at no risk to themselves are telling Trump to go fuck himself.
Does this mean historical knowledge will leave quickly leaving gaps in how or why things work?
I don't know if I can give a straight answer. Agencies and their divisions, orgs, branches, teams have to do records management. There's a federal law somewhere in the federal registrar. So a certain amount of historical knowledge is preserved. Where, how well, and how far back is a bunch of rabbits holes.
But what I think you might be getting at is tribal knowledge. Everything that's passed around orally or by experience rather than being written down. There's always that risk with people leaving and that knowledge going with them. But that impact can vary depending on agency practices, work culture, or even just the responsibilities of the person leaving.
The area I'm keeping an eye on are the people with decades of knowledge and experience that are also skilled enough to apply all that to their niche fields within an agency. They're usually the ones in federal service for the long haul and are some of the more difficult people to get time with. If an agency is gutted and that living knowledge base is lost then the agency will struggle to fulfill the missions Congress has directed they must do as federal law.
"Tribal knowledge" is exactly what I was trying to express. I've been called back to consult with previous jobs because even though everything was fully documented, systems change over time and not everyone knows how to reconnect the pieces once that happens.
This is going to be a huge mess for you guys and I'm really not sure what the best play is. In some cases, letting things fail that slow negative progress is better in the long run. In other cases, failure is exactly what this administration is looking for.
You seem to have a very good grasp of how things work there. I hope there are enough bright people like you to navigate this in the best way possible.
That's almost exactly the number of expected retirements. I think it's something like 110k regular retirements in a year and the period covers 2/3rds of a year, so it's basically spot on.
I have a friend who's taking it but only because he was going to leave anyway.
Yeah, similar to someone I know, who knew they were on their way out regardless of any dumb stunts.
People calling them stupid are automatically assuming the worst of them based on one piece of evidence.
Dumb fucks
Those poor fools.
wtf is up with that thumbnail image? Either a mid shop job or a weird ass image-gen on just the face. Just...why?
It looks like a baby who just pooped it's diaper. I'm inclined to think it is a real photo.
It's not that the face is unbelievable, it's the weird, high definition of the details compared to the rest of the photo. If it was 2015, I'd confidently say they copied a better quality picture of his face over this one.
Isn't it just the thing that smartphones do these days where they slightly blur the background to make the person stand out more? Like you might do adjusting the focus, but faked.
Isn't it just a regular shallow depth of field? You can see the piece of paper smoothly transition towards being in focus
You might be right. Looking close up the edges don't stand out as being faked, I just didn't look that close before. Though the arm on the right (his left arm) is full in focus and the box right next to it is very out of focus.
To be honest it's been so long since I've seen a photo that wasn't autocorrected up the wazoo that I can't remember what things are supposed to look like anymore.
Maybe.
I dunno. It just looks like a photo taken with a high end digital camera to me.