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Elon Musk's DOGE blocked from accessing Labor Department data in stunning win for unions (www.latintimes.com)

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A federal judge temporarily blocked Elon Musk from accessing sensitive Labor Department data, a major win for unions concerned about worker privacy.

The lawsuit, filed by federal employee unions, argued that DOGE’s demands posed a threat to labor rights.

Union leaders praised the decision as a safeguard against government overreach.

DOGE has also faced restrictions on Treasury Department access and has taken control of USAID and the Office of Personnel Management, sparking high-profile resignations.

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[–] givesomefucks 93 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I'm still salty how many people are still running around shit talking the unions like they haven't done anything.

Just because mainstream news doesn't mention it yet, doesn't mean it's not happening. If you're not on a union mailing list, you're not hearing about stuff till it gets to this point.

There's a shit ton of lawsuits going on, mostly because the unions work hand in hand, so when one sues, they all sue.

It's not like private sector, when fed unions fight the federal government, the federal government is often the side with less resources.

[–] MothmanDelorian 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unions are why we have labor rights.

[–] givesomefucks 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Protests (often incredibly violent ones) are why we have unions.

*Note an accurate explanation of how we got our rights isn't directly advocating for how to keep them or as advocacy for violence in any form, because that's what unacceptable about this situation

[–] MothmanDelorian 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And songs like “Which Side Are You On?” make it clear that it wasn’t easy.

[–] givesomefucks 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've seen Dylan live, but I didn't know he made an original till right now...

I immediately thought of the Dead Prez version from a decade ago and wasn't sure what was going on lol

[–] MothmanDelorian 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pete Seeger was the first to record it. I cannot recall who the original songwriter was but her husband was a miner and not a scab for JH Blair. I strongly suggest finding one if the live versions from the earlier days if you can. It’s a great song to hear thousands singing in unison especially when you know most were unionized

[–] givesomefucks 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Was just coming to fix that lol.

I searched it and saw a B Dolan version from like a dozen years ago and got mixed up.

[–] MothmanDelorian 2 points 1 week ago

Pete is the guy Bob wanted to be as a kid

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Also, remember that legal, regulated unions with a union steward empowered to negotiate are the compromise. The alternative was rioting mobs of factory workers.

In 1812 the forces of General Ludd attacked a mill near Manchester, which was defended by British soldiers and literal cannons. The reason why we have unions today is that dealing with unions was a more palatable option for the bosses than dealing with an angry mob.

Also, strikes are the more peaceful, more acceptable option that was a compromise vs. simply wrecking the machines.

All this time fighting against unions has meant the alternative to unions simply becomes more likely, and if the business owners think they hate unions, imagine how they'll like angry mobs.

[–] JamesTBagg 11 points 1 week ago

This lawsuit was headed by the AFL-CIO, which is a union of unions.

I was at my monthly meeting last night until 7:45, the meeting started at 4:30. Lots of people were concerned and discussing the attacks on the NLRB, DoL and OSHA; concerned about this administration's anti-worker tilt.

[–] chiliedogg 4 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Also - these unions are made up of hundreds of thousands of beaurocrats, and NOBODY knows the rules like beaurocrats.

Source: am municipal bureaucrat.

[–] givesomefucks 3 points 1 week ago

More importantly, bureaucrats who are used to politicians making kneejerk reactions and trying things they can't do.

Bureaucrats used to planning ahead for multiple contingencies.

trump and Elmo aren't chaotic forces, they're incredibly predictable idiots. The unions arent scrambling to react like a disorganized mass of employees, they just shrug and pull the next packet of documents out of a drawer and follow the next step in the binder.

They don't need to worry about flashy attorney fees, they have an army of beige suit lawyers who file boring and predictable arguments that were written before Elmo thought to put the current plan into motion. And they have the massive savings account to pay those boring lawyers for a very long time, because federal bureacrats are risk adverse and plan for raining days.

There's a reason neoliberals play nice when they decimate the federal workforce.

The union can outlast a president.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A federal judge temporarily blocked

Such wow

Many stunning

[–] Warl0k3 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be honest, that there was any win at all is pretty shocking.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not really. "Temporary" blocks are pretty common. Wake me up when they're permanent.

[–] electricyarn 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Many of the delays in Trumps cases were also temporary blocks. Every monkey wrench in the facist machine helps.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

True, it's just difficult to celebrate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you for not falling into inescapable despair this day. Be well. We're all struggling in some way right now. Take care of yourself and those around you as well as you can in these times. Disengage when you need to recharge. Just don't give up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thank you for not falling into inescapable despair this day.

Despair is an often maligned experience to be erased and eradicated in modern society, but don't fear despair.

Fear the people who are skilled at convincing you any length of life spent fleeing from your negative emotions is a preferable substitute to processing, embodying and grieving with those negative existential emotions and letting them lead you into radical action to save and protect your loved ones NOW.

Fall into despair, now is the time. Despair is the threshold to coming to peace with the fact that there is a good chance you don't have a future, just this small time left.

Despair is the only thing that can get you to understand how frighteningly unstoppable you are when you realize there is no reason not to fight with absolutely everything you have for a better future NOW. In this moment despair makes you radically free in a way positive emotions can hardly do.

[–] electricyarn 2 points 1 week ago

Nothing to celebrate, but it's good to look around and see other's digging in.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly what happens if they disobey the order?

[–] ralakus 7 points 1 week ago

They'll just get a harshly worded letter or something

[–] WhyDoYouPersist 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Stunning" is such a sad word to use in this context.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

News corps still acting like it's a sports game.

[–] kautau 16 points 1 week ago

Capitalism still acting like it’s an impressions game

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Like a court order will stop them.

The court needs to order their arrest and detention.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

AT this point the Court ordering a Firing Squad would only be met with a mildly annoyed "About fucking time" from moi

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

so trump can pardon them?
still it’d be worth it to see elmo in handcuffs do the perp walk

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (7 children)

"stunning win" bullshit!

Get real, any small victory today is simply to maintain the rights that already existed and that were gradually taken away by neoliberal policies and not to move forward

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Union lawyers work their asses off as they are under constant barrage of top-down leaders trying to take control and wealthy attempting to subvert their existence. I wonder how much dues would go down if there were more worker protection laws. Trump going after unions is next on the list. You suck if you're not a part of your workplace union.

[–] SoftestSapphic 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In a just world he would have all of his skin ripped off by a mob.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you think the one person who downvoted this was musk on his fediverse alt account?

[–] SoftestSapphic 4 points 1 week ago

He's a terminally online incel so probably

[–] CharlesDarwin 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A real win would involve fElon and his dogebois being given a one-way trip to Gitmo.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You misspelled gallows.

[–] conicalscientist 2 points 1 week ago

I'm still waiting to see if the second amendment is actually real.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

So did they unplug the server, or what proof do we have he stopped? There's no consequences for these people for breaking the law anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Diabolical Oligarch Grifting Efficiently"

Efficiently? Really?

How about Evilly? Eagerly? Excitedly? Embarrassingly? Endlessly? Eternally? Enormously? Or, if nothing else, Erectly?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

He knows he won't be able to grift forever so he moves fast and (often intentionally) breaks things. If you need an E word, there is edaciously but that's not very well-known.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Finally a judge with spine. Musk’s data-grubbing circus hits a wall as unions claw back crumbs of dignity from his corporate vultures. DOGE’s “mission” was always just surveillance cosplay—now they’re caught red-handed trying to vacuum up worker DNA under the noble guise of “efficiency.”

Meanwhile, Treasury’s slamming doors while USAID and OPM get strip-mined in Musk’s fire sale of democracy. Those high-profile resignations? Smartest career move since rats fled the Titanic.

The real win? Watching billionaire tantrums when someone says “no” to their data-hoarding octopus arms. Next target: his Mars colonization tax dodge.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"stunning win"

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