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[–] Diplomjodler3 64 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We're getting ever closer to biblical times, where the exploitation of the masses by a tiny minority was the norm. Democracy and equity are, historically speaking, a very new development and we've been backsliding for quite a while now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

new in western Europe* colonialism eliminated many societies that found ways to run their societies without the kinds of authoritarian power structures common in western Europe. the imperial powers, including eastern Asia (China and Japan), moscow, and western Europe wiped out threats to these authoritarian power structures. the societies they encountered were scientifically advanced in ways the imperial powers didn't truly understand because those powers only interacted with the world around them via violence

[–] Diplomjodler3 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Can you name any examples for such societies? With evidence, preferably.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I read a bit about the Iroquois history. It sounds like as soon as they found strength in their political structure, they started conquering neighbors, a pattern that seems pretty much unbroken throughout human history :/

[–] Sanctus 5 points 5 days ago

Thats because it is. We are still wired to be violent. Always have been. We came from a place where that was required.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's also ancient Greek and Rome which were republics 2000 and 2500 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ancient Greece and Rome were societies that were based upon and heavily relied on slavery.

[–] sumguyonline 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I dunno which version this is from, but damn, this was in a letter to Christians of the times, PEOPLE DIDN'T CHANGE! Interesting, and sad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Nearly Infallible Version: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+5&version=NIV

I don't think it was aimed at the elect though, just rich people in general. Although any rich believers would have been wise to pay attention to the message.

[–] BeefPiano 19 points 5 days ago

I read this in the voice of “Macho Man” Randy Savage.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Now accepting preorders for black t-shirts with simple block letters across the chest:

JAMES 5:1-6

On the back:

THE INERRANT WORD OF GOD

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Instead we have "Now listen, you rich people, cheer and dance because of the greater wealth that will be coming to you. Your wealth has fattened, and gold adorns your clothes. Your gold and silver is polished by an army of tongues of bootlickers. Their saliva testifies to your greatness, you will eat the flesh of the finest beasts. You have and will continue to hoard wealth as is Good™ to do. Look! The wages you fail to pay the workers who built your empire are justified, they are just immigrants and liberals. The cries of the workers are of silent text on screens, read by the unimportant, the powerless. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence and will continue to do so. You have fattened yourself on another day of your joy. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who you've made to oppose one another, and laughed at their suffering. Good show."

-Me now:today

[–] Mog_fanatic 4 points 5 days ago

Lol I was gonna say, unless this is supposed to be a prophesy of the future, things are almost literally the complete opposite of the quoted text right now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To the secular and the naturalist, this tells us it was a problem even then.

[–] CitizenKong 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm an atheist, but isn't a lot of the bible social commentary? The new testament at least, surely.

[–] chuckleslord 8 points 5 days ago

But did you consider the letters from Paul? I can assure you, powerful rich people are definitely right according to Paul. Or, if not wrong, can be saved merely through their faith.

[–] Sam_Bass 7 points 5 days ago

Consider the origin and understand that today's trials are just repeats of those referenced in the script

[–] Reality_Suit 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The righteous shall become wicked, and the wicked shall become righteous. But remember, there is always fluxx. There is always a state of change. Oscillations and vibrations that, though there are small, shall have great effect over the whole.

Over, and over, and over...

Edited: I can not spell

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Reality_Suit 2 points 5 days ago

Hah! I must've accepted to override spellchecker. I. Feel. Stupid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

They don't recognize their own dogmatic literature.

[–] slaacaa 6 points 5 days ago

Rich people facing consequences? Right

And people wonder why many call the Bible fiction…

[–] WrenFeathers 3 points 5 days ago

Oh I’ll be using this!