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Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo revealed that the U.S. agreed to curb gun smuggling into Mexico—something omitted from Trump’s statement about their call.

While Trump announced that Mexico would send 10,000 troops to the U.S. border, he did not mention this key concession.

Studies show 68–90% of traced firearms in Mexico originate from or pass through the U.S.

The tariff pause follows Mexico's commitment to increased border security, but Sheinbaum’s disclosure highlights a significant aspect Trump did not publicly acknowledge.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] victorz 9 points 6 days ago

Love the username, love how it ends with .zip, love the picture, love it in the context...

Bro, 10/10.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As always, if your source for anything is "trump said", you really don't have a source. Just gotta ignore everything he says, it just feeds him.

[–] ameancow 2 points 6 days ago

I didn't need Claudia to tell us that Trump folded and didn't actually make any deals.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She has to know he’s lying and that this won’t last. I guess we’ll get a series of similar “agreements” until he’s gone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Oh, she knows.

That's why she demanded to be allowed to boost troops numbers on the northern border.

Otherwise, it could (and still.does) look like either preparing against an invasion, or readying for an invasion. The former being most likely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

A billionaire's and a dictator's puppet flinging shit at each other and pretending they're winning while the people get caught in the middle.

[–] HappySkullsplitter 232 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More guns flow into Mexico than flow into the U.S. — a fact that Vice President J.D. Vance was corrected on during the vice-presidential debate.

Hey, hey, hey now!

You guys said you weren't going to fact check

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just the media showing their lib'ruhl bias again. I wonder why facts seem to be so biased against good stolid conservative values.

[–] HappySkullsplitter 30 points 1 week ago

Facts are just there to prove people wrong

It's just impolite

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://apnews.com/article/guatemala-honduras-mexico-immigration-border-patrols-917c0fea87c0a807b371da207d34c8cc

April 12, 2021:

According to White House press secretary Jen Psaki, Mexico will maintain a deployment of about 10,000 troops...

Mexico announced in March that it was deploying National Guard members and immigration agents to its southern border, and it has maintained more personnel at its southern border since Trump threatened tariffs on Mexican imports in 2019.

Unless someone can find a source that states that Mexico ever withdrew their 10k troops during the last 3 years... yeah, they already had 10k troops on their southern border, they've... just been redeployed to their northern border.

The posted article here from RawStory kind of alludes to how this is a nothing victory by linking to another of their own articles at the end of this one.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-tariff-mexico/

"Mexico has made similar agreements without the threat of tariffs," posted Sam Stein, of The Bulwark and MSNBC. "Here in 2021 they agreed to surge the same number of troops to help with migration. Here in 2022 they agreed to invest an additional $1.5b. Here in 2023 were 15 administrative actions."

"It seems like the trick to negotiating with Trump is to realize he doesn’t have any idea what the current facts are," said Washington Post columnist Catherine Rampell. "'Oh you want 10,000 troops?' says world leader who already deployed 15K. 'Great 10k it is.'"

This is why Sheinbaum has an ear to ear smile in the image.

[–] themeatbridge 77 points 1 week ago

He's not going to, which is why he didn't mention it. He probably forgot he promised as soon as he said he would.

[–] NatakuNox 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The majority of illegal immigrants comes over legally through ports of entry and just out stay their visas. Mexico is laughing as they pretend to send 10,000 troops to the boarder to watch dirt.

[–] marcos 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

to watch dirt

Nah. Those people will have a lot to do stopping weapons smuggling into Mexico.

[–] NatakuNox 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The weapons are purchased legally by Americans and simply driven over. Also through legal ports of entry. It's not this complicated process.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (9 children)

simply driven over

That's called smuggling.

[–] shplane 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Right but the previous commenter is saying adding 10k troops isn’t going to impact the existing ways those guns are smuggled into Mexico. They’d have to stop and search every car which would require a lot more people at the border

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

With 10,000 soldiers, they can search a lot more cars.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With 10,000 soldiers they can search many cars!

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago

I hope the US agreed to the same thing for Canada, too.

Pretty much all of Canada's gun crimes are committed with weapons smuggled in from the States.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Honestly, that’s not a bad deal. The US gets fentanyl enforcement. Mexico gets the flow of guns slowed, which weakens the cartels.

The tariff thing was a silly dance to get there, though. Makes me wonder if that wasn’t market manipulation. Knowing the tariffs would hit in the morning, then get lifted before enforcement would have made it very easy to play the market for a ton of money.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago

but... the Mexican government already had the troops on the border. Biden did that in 2021.. so nothing new there. Most Fentanyl is smuggled in my US citizens as they are not scrutinized as much as a Mexican citizen coming in legally or illegally. So again not much of a win.. seems like a tantrum that is planned to set him and his wealthy friends to swoop in

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

So optimistically assuming that Trump will follow through.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Regarding fentanyl, trump did everything except actually address it. Why not impose sanctions on Chinese pharmaceutical companies? Improve regulations to allow tracking of fentanyl ingredients (which are legal), create a task force that would trace suppliers and help impose more sanctions.

[–] YarHarSuperstar 20 points 1 week ago

As is tradition, your mistake is in assuming he actually wants to help anyone

[–] miak 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or they could have addressed both fentanyl in the US and the cartels in Mexico by just agreeing to end the war on drugs...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Except the US would giving up the current source of slave labor by stopping the war on drugs.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trump never mentions anything that can make him look like he gave anything up. His fragile ego just doesn't allow that. He always has to come out as the winner and everyone else has to come out as the loser. And that's what he will call them.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Export guns, import people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah I mean that's what has been happening for decades and it's worked out very well for the US. Profits from arms sales and a steady supply of cheap labor from immigrants. Don't know why the Republicans suddenly want to kill their cash cow.

[–] FarmTaco 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Robots. we have Robots now, we dont need them. /s

[–] horse_battery_staple 1 points 6 days ago

We need to arm the robots and just get it over with.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Don't know why the Republicans suddenly want to kill their cash cow.

The average conservative isn't informed or intelligent enough to understand how drastically they benefit from the horrible working conditions that migrant workers deal with, and they hate brown people.

The entire movement has been backing themselves into this corner for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago

Those texan gun dealers love selling to the cartels through proxy buyers. They are so easy to find if you have access to the right information - just look at whoever buys more than two guns in a 6 month period... the top 80% of that list will probably be unable to procure all the guns they bought because they distribute them over the border.

If we can smuggle people in to the US easily, it should be trivial to smuggle weapons out of the US easily. Hell, if you take out the receivers you can do it in plain sight, just move the receivers illegally.

[–] cabron_offsets 32 points 1 week ago

Trump emerges from this fiasco looking like the bitch that he is.

[–] Snapz 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He has two tricks:

  1. Accepting deal wins that aren't wins - So a child had two cookies, you took them both, he starts crying, you give him one of the cookies to soothe him and you eat the other in front of him while he laughs and thinks he's winning. In this examples, trump is the baby.

  2. Or, unseen solutions to imaginary problems or problems he created himself - Covers your house in gasoline, sits in a chair and throws lit matches towards it. Then says loudly, NOBODY IS GONNA BURN THIS HOUSE DOWN, YOU GOT IT! And then waits for you to thank him.

[–] inclementimmigrant 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well if it isn't my old nemesis, unintended consequences.

I would be so tickled if this was the catalyst for stricter gun laws and enforcement.

[–] chiliedogg 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When fascists start trying to get stricter on guns, it's time to buy more of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

A whole bunch of these people don't get it. They're still stuck in the my side/their side dichotomy. I'd be willing to bet money 90% of lemmy bends the knee and kisses the ring when it's their turn.

[–] cultsuperstar 14 points 1 week ago

Isn't this mostly just for show for his base anyway? "See! I'm doing what I said I'd do!"

[–] AidsKitty 7 points 1 week ago

Just like Mexico cant stop the flow of drugs America wont be able to stop the flow of guns. Where there is demand people will find a way.

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