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[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago
[–] NIB 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Humans "i dont rape because i respect other humans". Meanwhile nature ....

And in before "but i need to eat", you dont need to eat animal products. You can have a healthy life with a vegan diet, arguably an even healthier life. And to go back to my original point, just because you need to cum, doesnt mean that you have the right to cause suffering and death to other sentient beings.

Just masturbate. Just go vegan.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 3 points 1 hour ago

I’m a vegetarian and also native. Humans have this weird hubris where they think they’re not part of the natural world. Humans are designed to be omnivores, meat jumpstarted our evolution. I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with eating meat, but what’s wrong is the ease and disregard for meat and the animals that provide it through the factory farming industry.

But at the end of the day there’s no more wrong with a person eating meat, than with that Hawk eating a mouse. We’re part of the circle. We just have the privilege to live in a time and place where not eating meat is a realistic choice

[–] [email protected] -1 points 30 minutes ago

Where we came from is less important than where we are going. The problems with veganism are not that they don't eat animals, in fact I don't think the problem is with veganism at all but with moral imperatives in general that promote black and white, oppositional political positioning. But moral imperatives are one of the most popular and effective rhetorical methods to make a point (and split opposition) so we are just kind of raised in it. If you're someone who has strong opinions you learn to express them in a certain way.

But veganism is good and primitivist "return to nature" types have a dubious track record aka they tend to be chuds or on their way to chuddening. "Retvrn to the past" is a conservative talking point, but what separates us from nature is capitalism, not veganism.

[–] udon 1 points 2 hours ago

Non-vegan, hearing that vegans exist: "Hey, these people are different from me! I hate them!"

[–] tomi000 90 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)


Nature according to people who use that argument

[–] Lumisal 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Well if the ants can do it, why can't we?

(Btw, I'm opposed to caged chicken egg cultivation, and even had my own chicken in the past before I couldn't anymore for eggs. Now I just pay the premium and researched which were the most ethical eggs in the store available. Happy hens make better eggs anyway. I'm just pointing out we're not the only ones that raise animals for consumption in nature).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

ants can do it, why can’t we?

(Btw, I’m opposed to caged chicken egg cultivation

lol. Classic carnism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Why would what ants do have relevancy to what we should do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

It tracks the logic of the meme then counterpoint, this is the counterpoint to the counterpoint.

[–] Katana314 3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I invented a fictional society for stories in which you are allowed to buy and consume meat, but only if you have a “carnivore’s medallion”. The only way to obtain one is to have witnesses observe you personally slaughter a living being (eg, a chicken) with no assistance.

Ideologically, seems like a good way to put friction on meat obsessions and get people to think about it.

[–] Glifted 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Katana314 1 points 2 hours ago

Well, hunting involves the whole orange vests, ensuring legal permission, stalking an animal, etc. The idea would be if this world has hunters, any of them certified as a witness can get their colleagues a medallion without going the whole chicken route.

But obviously, most people who eat meat today don’t hunt. So they would need to go through the experience of taking life once before reaping the benefit.

[–] Machinist 1 points 3 hours ago

I like this idea. We're raising chickens and probably rabbits this spring. If you're going to eat meat, you should face the reality of the life you are consuming.

[–] tomi000 1 points 4 hours ago

Sounds interesting.

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[–] DytallixB 17 points 7 hours ago

This is for real shit post

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