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Harris rejects DeSantis’ offer to debate Florida’s new Black history standards (www.politico.com)

submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave to c/politics

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“We will not stop calling out and fighting back against extremist, so-called leaders who try to prevent our children from learning our true and full history,” the vice president said in Florida.

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[–] MicroWave 218 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“They attempt to legitimize these unnecessary debates with a proposal that most recently came in of a politically motivated roundtable,” Harris said in her afternoon speech at the 20th Women’s Missionary Society of the African Methodist Episcopal Church Quadrennial Convention in Orlando. “Well, I’m here in Florida, and I will tell you there is no roundtable, no lecture, no invitation we will accept to debate an undeniable fact. There were no redeeming qualities of slavery.”

Makes sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Honestly debating these people is completely pointless and should be seen as such. They're not going to argue in good faith and they will just continue to create statements that are inarguable due to confounded bullshit. Word salad after preposterous nonsense.

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[–] joe 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we step back for a second and just soak up the fact that it's 2023 and some presidential candidates still want to debate the benefits of owning humans?

I know MLK Jr said

The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice

But man, that arc seems so long that a flat earther would deny there's a curve at all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A white racist piece of shit wants to debate the vice president who is a black woman. I sure thought we had made progress over the last 50 years, but of course we haven't.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

She kinda has a point... debating him just legitimizes his views.

[–] Captain_Patchy 133 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Never give a fascist a platform.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

There's only one platform fascist deserve. A platform that's gonna drop out from under them, good thing they have a rope or they'd fall to the ground.

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[–] wwaxwork 131 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The only correct response, you don't bargain with terrorists. Her turning up and debating it legitimises it like it's an actual educational option and not lies.

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[–] LEDZeppelin 59 points 1 year ago

Good. There no “debating” with these fascists. They are only looking to bang the table to legitimize their fucked up fantasies.

This is the same reason we don’t “debate” benefits and harms of genocide. DeSpicable.

[–] ArtVandelay 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think we learned our lesson with Bill Nye vs Ken Hamm. There is no good faith to be had, only a megaphone.

[–] golamas1999 12 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I feel awful giving him money but I went to that “museum” in 2014 with my dad and sister. We thought it be an interesting place to go and learn to drive on my learners permit. We are Atheist Jews.

What I learned while I was there (sarcastically, I know the place is all propaganda for their Kool-Ade).

In their astronomy video they specifically say that a light year is the distance light travels in a year. The way they get around the universe being bigger than 6000 light is with the explanation: gravitational time dilation and anisotropic synchrony.

They said lack of god lead to teen boys watching porn and playing GTA. Then they will commit school shootings.

Girls will get pregnant and get abortions. Then they feel bad and commit suicide.

Adam and Eve lived in the tropics with dinosaurs and penguins and all ate pineapple.

Eve at the Apple committing the original sim by defying god and set subservience to man.

Velociraptors were on the arc.

Continental drift and all the super continents broke apart and back together multiple times when the world was flooded for a year.

On the arc they brought one kind of animal and once they went free then they split off into different species.

Separation of church and state is discriminatory against Christians.

Allowing evolution thought in public schools was an assault on Christianity.

Atheism leads to poverty, hunger, famine, drought, war, death, slavers, insert any horrible thing and atheism is to blame.

They had a whole bunch of finches to show Darwin was wrong.

… It was an interesting experience. The dioramas had a lot of work. The miniatures were neat.

The whole place made me angry and frustrated. Especially once they used Carl Sagan’s name to prove their baseless ideology he specifically spoke against shit like this.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't debate DeSantis. Ever. He does not deserve the legitimacy. I thought Trump was bad, and he was. But Trump is an imbecile who used money and likely being a traitor to his country to flounder to success. DeSantis knows he's an ignorant, evil piece of shit and is using all his limited ability to hurt people in order to curry favor with like-minded bigots. Fuck him, he's a nobody. Trump has contributed exactly 1 good thing to this world, and that's Meatball Ron.

[–] NewEnglandRedshirt 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, what's worse is that DeSantis isn't ignorant. He knows exactly what he's doing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Which is more reason to not even acknowledge his hateful rhetoric.

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[–] FlyingSquid 25 points 1 year ago

They should debate on how to pronounce 'Thai food.' Harris would win.

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