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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Stamets to c/tenforward
 

So I've been barely active on Lemmy for a litany of reasons but I am active elsewhere. Specifically, Bluesky. I run an account that I've posted here a couple times called the Starfleet Press Office where I post lil tweets that take place kinda within the Star Trek universe, breaking the fourth wall to an extent. The idea is that the Department of Temporal Investigations owed a favor to the team in charge of the S.P.O so he got a temporal link to Bsky set up. For fun. So random tweets get posted that are commenting on current episodes (A few were made for different Lower Decks episodes as they were posted), other ones about just random events in the universe that I think would be funny (sometimes lining up with holidays, like some Santa teleportation nonsense), and others that take real world events and parody them in the Star Trek universe, like the ferengi CEO of a health insurance conglomerate getting killed.

I'm clearly doing something right because @RealGulDukat, the guy who posts Trump tweets as if Dukat said them, follows only 13 people on Bsky and one of them is me. So whatever nonsense I keep posting I'm just gonna stick with. Drop by and say hi!

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Kirk and Uhura kiss, 1968

Woke, you say? Dare I remind people what racial tensions were like when this episode came out in (checks notes) 1968?

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Why am I blanking on "Communist Himbo"? Is that supposed to be Rom?

[–] Stamets 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's my guess. He did quote the Communist Manifesto

[–] Norin 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Formed a union, charmed one of the most beautiful women in the quadrant, saved that quadrant with a mix of intelligence and courage, raised his son to be a war hero, and eventually became the Grand Nagus.

We Stan Rom in this house.

[–] idiomaddict 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’ve only seen the first season so far (my borg-loving husband won rock paper scissors, and we’re finishing voyager first), but that’s wild. I’m very excited for Rom’s character development.

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[–] cogman 9 points 1 month ago

While leading a labor strike and rejecting his employer's bid to undermine the union with a literal back room deal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

It’s %100 rom and it’s a perfect description of him

[–] grue 8 points 1 month ago

What threw me off was "main characters." If I thought recurring characters were included I would've gotten it in one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

That is always the consensus whenever this is reposted, but I would argue that description doesn't really fit. Rom is too clever and not hypermasculine enough

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Himbo

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you honestly suggesting Rom is not a himbo? He is smart but.. come on now.

[–] someguy3 5 points 1 month ago

He's a mechanical genius. He could have been the chief engineer of a starship.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Now? It’s amazing how people either didn’t know or willingly ignored TOS. Think about the episode with the half and half people, or the first time there was an interracial kiss. Star Trek has been “woke” since the 60s.

[–] Stamets 31 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Slight correction but TOS didn't have the first interracial kiss. A very, very early one, but not the first.

Not that it makes the kiss mean any less, just a clarification for future reference. So many people are assholes and I've seen them use that oft made mistake to try and discredit everything else someone says.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

It is like the second one showing on national tv in the US.

Still pretty woke though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Huh, didn’t know that. I thought it was the first aired during prime time. So who does that award go to?

[–] littletoolshed 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So it's awkward to make the distinction ("I think not being racist is the new racism"), but based on that article, it does seem to be the first romantic kiss--I know it's mind control in the episode, stop picking at me mid-sentence--on US television between black and white people specifically. The previous examples were arguably less taboo for their time, being between Hispanic and white and Asian and white partners. They each represent their own milestones.

I think part of the confusion probably comes from the fact that "interracial" is sometimes used specifically to refer to black and white pairings, so when people say it's the "first interracial kiss", that is what they mean. This is an incorrect usage and dismissive of other interracial pairings, but I don't know if there's a more specific word for different pairings and you sound like a creep drilling down into the subject this much, as you can see from this comment right now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Trying to discuss race as category at all almost always ends with either feeling creepy or really leaning into it in a creepy way. It's about as scientific as discussing skull shape or star signs, it's just so institutionalized that it feels real... Until you poke at it, and realize I love Lucy was both interracial and not, because Reasons™

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt 7 points 1 month ago

Woke is the new sheeple. In that...anyone who says is unironically is you know they're an absolute moron parroting the latest talking points they were told to be outraged at.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every societal change that's happened before I was born was just the natural way of things and needs to be preserved.
Every societal change that's happened after I was born is the evil work of the woke devil worshippers destroying society.

[–] Doomsider 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you go back a little in time me you can talk about how rock music and the shaking of hips would destroy society. A little further and it was the first kiss on screen.

This is true of every generation it seems. Here is a supposed quote from King Naram Sin of Chaldea, 3800 years B.C

"We have fallen upon evil times and the world has waxed very old and wicked. Politics are very corrupt. Children are no longer respectful to their parents."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

People used to think the sound of a flushing toilet onscreen would destroy society. Moral puritans are garbage

[–] Dasus 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Heard this on QI from Jimmy Carr; when film technology started, horses were still commonplace and horseshit was everywhere and slipping on some wasn't something unheard of. Obviously it's fun to laugh at the misfortune of others so they wanted to show that in films, but couldn't put in shit — as they're making art — that it was replaced with the innocuous banana peel.

Granted it would be quite different if in Mario Kart you tossed shit at others instead of bananas.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish anybody would make something as woke as DS9 again

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah!

Weirdly, The Orville is the recently created media that stands closest, in my opinion.

I think it's a far cry from DS9.

And I'm pretty sure I don't share many politics with Seth MacFarlane.

But The Orville genuinely prioritizes asking the audience to reflect on tough topics through a lens of empathy and compromise.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I enjoyed star trek before it got woke. I still enjoy ~~TNG~~ ~~TOS~~ ~~The Cage~~ The intro. There's nothing woke about "space"

[–] grue 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, exploring for exploration's sake (as opposed to conquest or resource extraction) is pretty woke too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

True, but "the final frontier" sounds alot like Manifest Destiny and makes the US look like the humanistic project the federation is. I think star trek plays both teams and actually always wins. It appeals to those who like hierarchical militaristic power structures while giving a utopian one to those unsatisfied with the real ones. Don't get me wrong, I read it as a left utopia but I have my issues and see how people from other points of the spectrum enjoy it too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except for the one inconvenient point that the entire series is predicted on THE ENTIRE SPECIES GOING WOKE AND NOT BICKERING OVER IT.

Do we seriously think us ugly bags of mostly water could get safely out to the hard vacuum of space without a lengthy bout of cooperation and super-getting-along powers?

I suspect we are actually upset about is the in-your-face woke tropes that are used as 2x4s with nails driven through them as devices to drive the narrative. But that's not just trek, that's kinda all modern media. It's almost like the corresponding rise in incivility and everyday life is being protested, or warned against by the people doing the writing. I agree that it's poorly executed but bad writing doesn't mean that "being good and kind to one another" is a shitty idea, or that it's impossible have characters acting with an enlightened humanity, which is all being "woke" actually is.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Who is communist himbo?

I feel like I've asked that before and have already forgot... 🤔

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's clearly Rom.

Edit: I have no original thoughts...

[–] elephantium 8 points 1 month ago

Rom, apparently. I had to do some searching to figure it out.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] negativenull 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

@stamets is back!! We've missed you buddy!!!

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[–] jrs100000 13 points 1 month ago

Sisko was obviously space Moses, not space Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sorry to hear that the federation has lost you to blusky.

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[–] gedaliyah 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I always like to remind people that Star Trek includes the first ever ~~interracial~~ kiss between a black and white person on TV.

It's always been "woke."

(Edited. See Wikipedia article.)

[–] FlashMobOfOne 11 points 1 month ago

The only people who say this shit are people who saw a thirty-second segment on Fox News. Star Trek and Star Wars have been woke for as long as they've existed, and that's partly why they're so fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Deep Space Nine wasn't woke because I hadn't been radicalised when it was produced. Your move, snowflake

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Thank you for everything Stamets

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Every time I see this, I'm reminded of the weird right wing star trek subreddit called r/star_trek where people disagreed with this. It was wild that they "watched" the same shows where it literally has every single of these characters and went "nah I disagree"

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[–] someguy3 7 points 1 month ago

Space Jesus? In my prophets?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Conservatives: Black Jesus? Jesus was from the middle east .... Bisexual Terrorist? rebels against tyranny are not identified by sexuality .... Trans Worm? it's just another alien .... Dr Twink and his fashion Lizard boyfriend? what happens in another star system stays in another star system .... traumatized goo? just keep it in a jar ... communist himbo? we defeated communism in the 20th century ... PRO-UNION IRISHMAN????!!!!!!

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