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[–] Snapz 19 points 19 hours ago

Article does a very poor job of discussing precedence and likelihood that report does get release and when? Can Congress release it? Under what circumstances? Can Garland release it? How? Can Biden release it? How?

Need pressure on the systems that still exist to act before the 20th

[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Poor guy.

Imagine qualifying as a lawyer - spending years learning the legal system and full of hope and promise. You're going to change the world and make it a better place. Your life is spent working your way up in seniority until you land the ultimate case - prosecuting an ex president for fraud and corruption. You expose the lies and illegal manipulation and prove them beyond reasonable doubt. And against all odds, you win! Best day ever. Everyone slapping your back and telling you what a great guy you are, so clever, and this piece of shit is really going to get his comeuppance.

And then, despite knowing that they're voting for a criminal, half the voting people of your country still elect him into office, knowing full well that he's going to continue being the same awful human being that you proved him in court to be.

Justice, the system you've spent your life believing in and working for is pushed aside. The sentence is reduced to nothing - less than a starving person would get for stealing a loaf of bread to feed their family.

How the fuck do you continue after that?

How can you believe in any system that lets that happen?

Obviously he couldn't, and I respect that. I'd be heading into the woods to get away from everyone.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 1 points 3 hours ago

That's why it's bad when legal means fail to stop something that has to be stopped. First you get Bernie, then you get Jack Smith, then you get Luigi Mangioni.

We'd be happy to go back up the chain any time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

Just another example between the "legal" and the "justice" system...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago

What makes you think people who become DAs believe in the justice system? Many do it because they know it’s a path to become a judge or a politician. Many know how broken the system is before they enter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

Or maybe this just makes for a great origin-story for becoming an epic Batman-like vigilante. I'm waiting to see his next career take off...

[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 1 day ago

How the fuck do you continue after that?

By fleeing the country if he has any sense because his life will be worth nothing in America in a few days.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that to stay sane in the legal system you have to satisfy yourself with knowing you've done your best even if you didn't get the outcome you wanted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but you also have to believe the system produces satisfactory outcomes often enough for the whole thing to be worth it. It looks increasingly like a system that does little more than punish poor people for being poor and foreign people for being foreign. I would certainly be reevaluating my life choices if I were a criminal lawyer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

I think that's fairly hyperbolic.

Sure, the system is corrupt and there are a lot of high profile cases that just don't seem to produce very "just" outcomes. That said, the vast majority of cases you don't hear about are still producing reasonable outcomes.

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[–] [email protected] 237 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Living in America right now is like being in a room with a dead body.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 3 points 16 hours ago

But one you can’t bang.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago

While also knowing the body will rise as a zombie on a set date.

[–] EmpathicVagrant 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being in a room with someone you recently lost can be beautiful and healing. Living in America today is like being in a room with your own dead body and you mostly have no idea what’s happening.

[–] Chip_Rat 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh that would make a great short animated horror film.. or indie game.

"Dead inside?" "The company I keep."

[–] EmpathicVagrant 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Perimortus: reflection of a life

[–] Chip_Rat 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

10/10 would buy on steam for $17.99 after watching the teaser trailer.

[–] PunnyName 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the red hats rejoiced, for they are stupid fascists.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like that one guy browsing Lemmy, down voting anti Maga stuff.

[–] Paddzr 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

"One"? There's a lot of people here who are pro trump. They tend to get downvoted quick but let's not pretend this is some leftist utopia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

You are right, but you do see it in a lot of these political threads - every(or most) expressly anti-R or anti-Trump comment with just one (sometimes two) downvotes, but no one actually dissenting. It's weirdly consistent and predictable.

Like there's one guy just laughing to himself that he's owning the libs every time he clicks that downvote button.

[–] [email protected] 143 points 1 day ago (4 children)

...and if he wants to stay out of prison and/or live he might want to get the fuck out of the USA pronto after resigning.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely. He needs to leave immediately. Retaliation is guaranteed.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Counterpoint: if he becomes a political prisoner, a ton of libs get radicalized

[–] FlyingSquid 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you know how many times I've heard, "if X happens, it will radicalize the people and they will take to the streets" and then X happens and it doesn't?

Because I'll give you one huge as fuck reminder: the end of Roe v. Wade.

Women across the country became second-class citizens overnight and it sure didn't bring about any sort of glorious revolution.

Expecting Americans to get radicalized by him getting arrested compared to that seems a bit silly to me.

[–] grue 18 points 1 day ago

“But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.”

― Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45

[–] Snowclone 74 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Unfortunately there's a limit to ''rilled up'' for intelligent people, because eventually you just stop engaging with politics because you need to survive and paying attention is fucking exhausting.

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 1 day ago

When you live paycheck-to-paycheck, as nearly half of Americans do, taking to the streets means possibly starving your kids.

I don't know if this is by design, but it sure as hell helps people in power.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eh I'm open to getting a little stupid. Hmu

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[–] TheDemonBuer 37 points 1 day ago

might want to get the fuck out of the USA pronto

Probably not a bad idea in general.

[–] kmartburrito 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is true, and incredibly fucked up. Have to flee for pursuing facts and attempting to enforce the rule of law.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That's fascism for you. That's where the US is headed

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That honestly goes for anyone who's a protected minority

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh it goes for so much more than just that, although those are obviously the most at risk. The minority groups are just who they'll come after first so we better stand by them when it happens.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For his own safety he should probably leave the country

[–] NABDad 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 1 day ago

Some of us are.

And I wish I could take anyone who wanted to come with me. I'm sorry.

I always wanted to live abroad, but not like this. Definitely not like this.

All I can say is I sincerely hope that my pessimism is shown to be completely misguided. But I doubt it is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Should he have stayed and made them fire him?

[–] ajoebyanyothername 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He'd be lucky to just be fired.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

There could be firing involved, or maybe a rope.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Then he wouldn't have got a pension I believe if he is fired

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