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[–] shalafi 314 points 1 month ago (16 children)

I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”

“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”

“Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

“Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”

He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”

“Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”

I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

“Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.

“Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

“Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

It didn’t seem like they did.

“Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.

I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

“Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.

Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

“Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.

I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”

He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

“All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

“Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.

“Because I was afraid.”

“Afraid?”

“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”

I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me.

[–] Odo 52 points 1 month ago

I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

That line gets me every time.

[–] MataVatnik 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it

[–] Donkter 19 points 1 month ago

For the bullet of course

[–] finitebanjo 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Anybody who claims crypto is useful for buying drugs is a fed. The blockchain contains the transaction history, you can trace a coin back to every wallet it's ever been in. Buy your drugs with cash, but make sure the cash has been places: cash from an ATM might have no history aside from you withdrawing it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'm unsure about the drug trade, but isn't Monero preferred for ransomware because it's harder to track than Bitcoin and other crypto? I would assume if it's good enough for ransomware hostage, it'd be sufficient for illicit purchases.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Fucking brilliant every time

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[–] [email protected] 232 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He also doesn’t want to pay property taxes, and for what little it’s worth, he drives a cybertruck/wankpanzer.

[–] lemmyuser100002 104 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Upvote for wankpanzer. That's gold

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I can’t claim to have created that nickname, I borrowed it from elsewhere.

I don’t think anyone else has used WombleWagon yet, though it’s not quite as brutal.

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[–] tortina_original 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oooh, wankpanzer, that is beautiful, thank you 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 187 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Name any price eh? Someone is going to learn very quickly, why public services exist.

[–] Dabundis 75 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Marcus Crassus smiles in his grave

[–] Kyrgizion 18 points 1 month ago

Should be shiny smile with all that gold poured down his throat.

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[–] doughless 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, if his house does burn down, he's just going to blame public services for their failure to protect his home, and then claim that privatized fire services would have been better.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The irony may be lost in him, but if he had advocated for his neighbors to have the resources they needed to prevent their house from burning, the imminent risk he's now facing to his house would not be a threat. The individualistic mindset of fire prevention, disease spread, etc is so flawed. The best way to protect yourself is to make sure your neighbors are protected, and for them to do the same to you.

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[–] billiam0202 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Without a hint of irony that those privatized fire services did not save his home anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

(supposed to be Crassus according to wikipedia, who was a roman that was infamous for, among other things, having a private fire brigade that would take financial advantage of people whose homes were burning)

[–] Bigfishbest 99 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Ancient Rome had privatized fire department. Caesar's friend Crassus got the job and used it to extort people to sell their homes in a neighborhood when a fire broke out. As a result he became one of the richest people in history. He was also killed by the Persians who poured liquid gold (or silver, depending on source) on his decapitated head and sent it back to Rome.

[–] affiliate 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He was also killed by the Persians who poured liquid gold (or silver, depending on source) on his decapitated head and sent it back to Rome.

we should bring that back. the persians were onto something here.

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[–] surph_ninja 87 points 1 month ago (5 children)

People need to realize the rich are not smart. And when they fuck things up, we all suffer.

It’s nice to see them fuck around and find out, but we cannot afford to keep watching them find out on climate change. They’re going to get us all killed.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago (13 children)

"Why isn't throwing money at the fire making it stop????"

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Get fucked Keith, Crassus and his shitty private firemen haven't been around for a fat minute. But hey you should celebrate, this is your free market paradise right here. Meteorological markets shorted the value of your home's existence.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

He's gonna get an insurance payout like almost everyone there. I wouldn't be surprised if state legislature takes tax money from the masses to make the rich who live there 'whole' on top of it.

Then there's FEMA/Federal tax dollars that they'll get even if the state government doesn't hand them piles of cash.

They always get their payday. They never actually risk anything, they just steal from the middle class taxpayers.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not really Antiwork but I do like seeing ancaps become homeless so

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Well, he’s a founding member and CEO of a company that is basically a corporate landlord and specifically profits off of car culture (apartment buildings and self-storage.) So he’s a leech on the working class, moreso than the typical member of the capital class.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 60 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Welcome to the days before professional police and fire. Where only the wealthy could afford to pay for their homes to be protected or crimes against them to be pursued. The poor had to hope for community to come to their aid.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Awwww he deleted his account. Or maybe it burned down too.

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[–] Allonzee 50 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Is it bad I kind of want to con these rich fucks out of some of their money so I can afford to move away from this greed prison country?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No not at all, they don't deserve more money than us.

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[–] FlyingSquid 48 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I feel really bad for the lungs of all the Angelinos who don't deserve this, but I can't say I haven't enjoyed the fact that this fire is centered around an area where a bunch of rich fucks have their mansions.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

FYI, in The United States ALL FIREFIGHTERS were private, and would demand to be paid BEFORE putting out a fire on private property or a business. Private Fire Brigades were the only "proffessional" firefighting available and if you didn't have the case your shit burned. Private Fire Brigades would often go to war with each other with fists, knives, and firearms over the right to collect duty and fight a particular fire.

[–] neatchee 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

While it's broadly accurate that private fire brigades were highly competitive and staunchly capitalist (and exploitative in nature), the idea that any of them would refuse to put out a fire without first being paid has been debunked.

It's not impossible that it happened on some occasion, but in general this would have been a horrifyingly terrible business decision: not only would they be lambasted by their competitors, but they usually covered at least some of the neighbors of any given burning property. It would have made their jobs infinitely more difficult when it came time to make good on protecting their clients if they let nearby fires grow (and grow they would, very quickly).

See here for a retraction of a previous piece by Tom Scott on this topic as it relates to the UK, where these stories originated, including reference to a correction of his original source, the London Fire Brigade Museum's webpage. https://youtu.be/Wif1EAgEQKI?si=vgjotkm19mrJGjyU All of the points made in that video about the UK apply the same to the US, as far as I'm aware

What DID actually happen was that brigades would send someone to prevent their competitors from putting out the fire before they could arrive (e.g. by blocking access to a hydrant/water main) in an effort to guarantee they would get the payout for putting it out. Similarly shitty, for sure, but not quite the same

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

this sounds like some libertarian ass shit

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

We don't need no water let the mother fucker burn

Burn motherfucker, burn

[–] tragicinfo 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He should just douse the fire with bootstraps.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Just here to point out the irony that this guy is called "Waterman" (in German, though one 'n' was dropped somewhere)

[–] masquenox 24 points 1 month ago

Remember... these are the oh-so-smart Richie Riches that gets to be the de facto ruling elites in our capitalism-addled society.

[–] robocall 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

There is a niche industry of private firefighters in SoCal. I'm not sure why he is tweeting for them instead of googling them, and calling.

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