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[–] [email protected] 242 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I looked on the map. That overlooks Central Park.

If your home overlooks Central Park, I'm pretty sure you can afford a congestion charge.

[–] GoofSchmoofer 96 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Some of the most frugal, penny pitching people I know are also some of the wealthiest people I know.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. I work in tech and there's a guy who cannot stop bragging about his millionaire status and is so ridiculously cheap.

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[–] DaddleDew 228 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Dude: "I wish traffic in my area wasn't so bad"

Genie: "Ok, people driving in your area will be financially penalized for using their car instead of public transit, therefore alleviating traffic."

Dude: "hey wait, I want an exception made for me! I am special. I am the main character, I should be the only one driving a car!"

Genie: "That was your third wish. Goodbye."

[–] [email protected] 192 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The congestion zone starts at 60th Street and heads south, so traveling from 61st - 79th street won't even encounter the congestion pricing. This guy is dumb on so many levels.

EDIT: I just looked it up on a map and 61st is a one way going west towards Central Park, so if you enter 61st from Madison Ave, you're forced to exit at 5th Ave and go south entering the zone, which I guess is this guy's problem?. I also looked up the guy and he's a CEO Real Estate developer, so he's living in a multi-million dollar place right next to Central Park and can't afford to pay $9 because his private parking spot in his building forces him to drive into the congestion pricing zone. Come on!

[–] WhatAmLemmy 41 points 2 weeks ago

Another case of the big bad gubberment hurting the little guy!

[–] Maggoty 28 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, it's 9 dollars?

Oh my God. I thought it was cheap. This poor bastard, does he have a GoFundMe I can donate to? This is highway robbery, it's going to drive him straight to the poor house or worse the public transportation system!

[–] thessnake03 20 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe he's a shady CEO scared his shit business practices will get him capped so he avoids all public transit.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't the point of the congestion fee to relieve congestion? Each person that says "this fee is stupid & I'm not paying" is one less vehicle in the area.

Sounds like a win.

[–] Humanius 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

That is indeed the goal, but there is still a PR battle to be had on the issue.

To my knowledge this is the first time that congestion pricing has been implemented in North-America, and how people react to this will decide whether other North-American cities are willing to take the risk and do the same thing. Over the next couple of months there will likely be a lot of opinion pieces and articles that try to make you think that the congestion pricing is a failure and should be reversed.

Edit: typo

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[–] Vorticity 101 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was wondering if there was more to the story. Like, maybe he has a disability and NYC doesn't have an exemption for disabilities. They do, however, have an exemption for disabilities as well as a reduced rate for low income residents. To me it sounds like this guy is just lazy.

Looking at this on Google Maps, he can get anywhere on 76th St using one bus or subway ride and a 5-10 minute walk.

Zero sympathy.

[–] nandeEbisu 44 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Wow, I can't believe you'd suggest subjecting this poor man to something as horrible as being forced to use a public bus.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"Ahh, the old number 22. Clean, reliable public transportation. The chariot of the people. The ride of choice for the poor and very poor alike!"

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A bus? With all the other peasants?

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Imagine if we got this sort of coverage whenever someone was inconvenienced by public transit being cut, or a bike lane being blocked, or fares being raised.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 31 points 2 weeks ago

But that doesn't manufacture consent for the corporate dictatorship?

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[–] ilinamorato 80 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Isn't that less than two miles away?

I suppose he could also have to travel down 79th a bit, but Manhattan is only about 2 miles wide anyway, right? So like...worst case scenario, a four mile walk.

Okay. That would be a significant walk. Probably an hour or two. But in NYC, how likely is it that you can get to your car, travel to your destination four miles away, find parking, and then walk to your destination (1) in less than an hour, and (2) for less than $9?

Get a bike, bro. Or hey, I hear New York has this fancy new doohickey called a "subway."

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's about a 24 minute walk or a 17 minute journey by bus

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If you catch all the lights. Urban biking can be a bit weird to time correctly.

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[–] Catma 20 points 2 weeks ago

You expect this man to mingle with the poors? What if he had to talk to someone or got bumped into? Perish the thought of this man interacting with anyone below his socioeconomic status.

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[–] DirkMcCallahan 65 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I drove once in NYC. Never again. I'd gladly walk 3x that distance to avoid having to use a car. Or, ya know, use (gasp) public transportation.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

Nobody drives in NYC! Too much traffic.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Congestion fees are a very capitalist way of solving it. This law basically exists for everyone except rich people (i,e. Those who can afford to pay fees).

All this is based on a false assumption that money has an objective value. But in reality, 1$ means different things for different classes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Yes but the money goes 100% to public transit so it benefits the lower income public transport commuters too.

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[–] coriza 18 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, you are right and the fee should be proportional to wealth, but it is not gonna affect the poor people because they use the public transit. Maybe anywhere else in the US may be true that "even the homeless need/have a car" but NYC would be the exception.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Also, where the fuck is he finding a place to park on E 79th St. anyway?

See, this is another thing that this congestion pricing will help alleviate: driving around several blocks for an hour, looking for a spot, wasting fuel and polluting.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

There should be congestion parking charges, too

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

No, better to just remove all the street parking spots.

They can do it slowly. One per day.

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[–] Roopappy 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Driving in Manhattan is for truck deliveries and taxis only.

If you try to drive a car from point to point in Manhattan, you're an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

That goes for every densely populated city. In Europe we have similar problems and still there are those SUV Assholes driving their cars in areas even delivery vehicles fear to enter. (Imagine Roads made for horse carriages... they are now one way and barely fit those dick extensions)

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[–] piecat 38 points 2 weeks ago

Just take the 6 like 2 stops you absolute donkey

[–] AA5B 36 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s hard to believe this is real. Who would try a car for a trip like that? It would be so inconvenient

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[–] SkunkWorkz 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Dude is complaining because even though he just lives out side of the zone he still has to pay the fee even when he travels north to 79th which is also outside zone. That area is all one way streets and if he wants to go north he has to travel south first into the zone and then he can turn around and drive to 79th. Though I have zero sympathy if you can afford to live right next to Central Park you can afford to pay the fee hundreds of times per week.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

it's almost like that's the point of congestion pricing

[–] buzz86us 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Awww he might have to go on the big scary subway and desk with the poors.. A sad day indeed

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

They may take our lives, but they will never take our DRIVING 18 BLOCKS TO SEE OUR CHILDREN

[–] leadore 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

His kids live on 79th street and he will have to pay congestion price every time he goes to see them.

So like, what, Christmas and their birthdays?

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[–] x00z 23 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Can somebody share a better measurement than "18 blocks" for the rest of the world?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

18 blocks in NYC is approximately 1.5 km to the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That is literally 15 minutes lol. But hes a ceo so thats why a 15 minute walk is so hard for him.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Property shark CEO inconvencied. Sad trombone.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Love how this is in the one US city where you need a car the least as far as I know. You've got the subway, the sidewalks, cabs... I mean sure, the latter exists in the form of ride sharing apps basically everywhere now, but NYC had cabs even in old movies. Though I suspect most other cities of any real size had them as well

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