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[–] UnfortunateShort 13 points 2 days ago

The problem are the shitty modern cars that are partly hard to repair so you have to pay for parts and service, partly because they want to sell you bs "features", while they also break constantly, because they are made to be as cheap as possible. Brought to you by the generation that now makes fun about people stuck in the system they helped to create

[–] LordWiggle 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, when basically the only electronics in a car were the head and tail lights. I can assemble and disassemble a Willy jeep or VW Beatle by just looking at it and going with the flow, I have no fucking clue how to disassemble a modern car's door panel without breaking anything.

But if we're comparing us to boomers, let's see who's better at building a simple web scraping tool in python which runs on a raspi without any knowledge of python, Linux, AI and how to setup a raspberry pi. It took me a day to figure out.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's the thing that hasn't changed: Some folks have a DIY attitude/initiative and others have a defeatist mentality.

I have no doubt that if you took someone from 50 years ago who could disassemble their car's engine and put it back together again and raised them up in today's environment they'd be the ones learning Python and how to fool around with Linux.

Maybe amateur radio folks (from 50 years ago) would be more appropriate for the analogy but you get the idea. Smarts and ignorance are orthogonal concepts.

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[–] Randelung 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'd make a "print a pdf" joke, but honestly, that's already an unnecessary "skill".

Sadly, technology has moved towards single finger usability and thrown out features in the process. Printing a PDF is now easy, because there's a big button (that sells you a cloud subscription for some reason), but it's also the only thing the app does.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

top 10 reasons I have my printer firewalled from the WAN network

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[–] helpImTrappedOnline 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Now the new skill is "print to pdf"

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

And i still miss those old manuals... Just let me fix my car mate

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[–] Valmond 19 points 2 days ago

Well guess why we have those warnings, they came from somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any time my father brings up stuff like this, I remind him that he and his brothers drove their car onto a frozen lake and almost broke through the ice, and more than once they bought tennis balls, soaked them in gasoline, and threw them at each other with welding gloves.

I know for a fact that he and his brothers did tons of dumb shit, and I won't let him forget it even if he finds it convenient when comparing generations.

[–] Lumisal 14 points 2 days ago

I'd ask how many people of his generations drank the battery acid that they had to make a warning about it.

[–] NONE_dc 19 points 2 days ago

Stupid people always existed. The difference is now they have TikTok and twitter, so we can see their stupidity more.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Isn’t this more of making sure to cover all bases in case someone gets an idea of doing something dumb so they can sue? Especially in the US because it’s the most litigious country in the world.

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[–] d00ery 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

many engines do not require this procedure. It depends on whether the engine is equipped with hydro-compensators: these are devices designed for automatic adjustment of the thermal gap. They work at the expense of the oil entering them from the engine (that is why, actually, and are called “hydro-compensators”) and completely exclude the necessity of periodic manual adjustment of valves.

https://www.bradkimberley.com/valve-adjustment-what-is-it-why-is-it-needed-and-what-happens-if-you-dont-do-it/

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't think any generation is "smarter" than the last at any given age.

I think each generation is less "ignorant" because they are more "informed" by the learnings and failures of the generations before.

I also think people stop adapting as they age, and intellect declines medically, leading to the impression that the younger are "smarter".

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[–] laserm 12 points 2 days ago

Generation war is nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Older vehicles easier to work on, go out of spec more often.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So electric cars don't have valves. Oh, you didn't even think that far ahead with your boomer brain? Try to figure out why they put the warning in the manual. With all that leaded gasoline fogging up the brains, it's fair to assume grandpa drank from a battery on a dare.

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[–] obre 10 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Maybe the previous generation of manual writers didn't have the common sense to realize that a certain subset of people out there are stupid enough to drink the battery juice if you don't warn them not to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

The label isn't there to prevent people from drinking battery juice. The same people who would drink it would never read a manual, let alone the warnings in it.

It's only there to limit liability.

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[–] wiccan2 7 points 2 days ago

That's because in the last 50 years someone somewhere was stupid enough to drink the battery. You can't blame that on the latest generation.

[–] Xeroxchasechase 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

This is the best way I can put it.

Before Reagan was elected, middle class was defined as one income supporting a family of four. In those days $1 million was still considered a vast fortune. By the time Bush Sr. was voted out, middle class had been redefined as two incomes to run the house, and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago
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