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[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Even the people who pay for insurance don't have rights either.

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[–] givesomefucks 89 points 1 week ago (49 children)

If everyone just said fuck it and stopped paying their insurance, it would crash not just those companies, but domino into taking out the entire stock market.

Like, these companies are worth so much, and they invest in others and people invest in them. If their entire revenue stream is stopped at once that's it.

Which makes it kind of a nuclear option, one I've intentionally not mentioned and haven't seen anyone else either.

But the day may be coming

[–] shalafi 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Corporations mainly pay for health insurance. Imagine employee's reactions being told they were getting cut off. Not going to happen.

[–] givesomefucks 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If the employee cancels their plan, the corp ain't going to keep paying.

I don't know why someone would read my comment and imagine I meant corporations should cancel their employees insurance...

But I think that's what happened here

[–] SpaceNoodle 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

We don't get to drop out of plans at a whim.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Interesting idea, but you’d need to get employers on board. Many of whom are publicly traded companies.

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[–] LavenderDay3544 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LaunchesKayaks 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah, we talking about the real Luigi

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just wish the US would get a universal healthcare system like every freaking other developed country in this world. Will never happen. Ugh.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Nah, the Republicans would rather see you spend twice as much per capita (the whole population!) to cover a third of the population via public insurance and then get you guys to then spend money on private insurance and then have to pay any time you need any care.

You know... Fiscal responsibility...

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago
[–] MapleEngineer 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Single payer healthcare is so complex to implement that only 22 of the 23 most developed countries in the world have done it.

The US system is grotesque.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 23 points 1 week ago

The US system is state sanctioned terrorism of the civilian population by the plutocracy, for profit.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago

Ha ha ha. Pop pop pop.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When the denying starts, the deposing starts.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Those who make peaceful reform impossible make violent revolution inevitable."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

RFK Jr.'s Uncle is rolling in the grave

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 11 points 1 week ago

Probably his father too.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't life already pay to play enough? How much blood can you get from a stone?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're going to keep squeezing to find out.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I mean we still don't have Soylent green factories and we aren't using teeth of the poor as a cheap source of aquarium gravel yet, so there's still some blood yet to squeeze from this rock.

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[–] Gorram_Reavers 37 points 1 week ago

Delay, deny, depose

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Under your plan, UnitedHealth’s revenue from Medicare Advantage would roughly double to $274 billion annually,” the Democrats wrote.

That's the point.

I'd like to see another outcome, like the government withdrawing their contracts due to fraud, but regulatory capture is strong here.

[–] givesomefucks 9 points 1 week ago

I’d like to see another outcome

It wasn't possible...

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/summary?id=D000000348

They bought Kamala too, even if she won they'd be winning.

Shit like that is what depressed turnout. Moderate Dems just keep taking loses like that because their goal is as narrow wins as possible.

They want to be just better enough than Republicans that they can win. But they ignore that better candidates would easily win.

[–] iAvicenna 31 points 1 week ago

what he really meant is that non millionaires dont deserve world class health care

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Considering that the majority of the GOP electorate is in the bottom-50% of incomes, this becomes very much a “leopards ate my face” moment.

[–] Professorozone 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Did anyone read the article? I didn't really understand it, the way he phrased it. I mean I'm not defending him or anything. He said a lot of other crap, but in the article it sounded like he was saying uninsured didn't DESERVE the right to health, but rather didn't currently(2013) POSSESS the right to health, because they were uninsured. He said that people should be screened for free. Not sure what kind of screening he was talking about but....

Is that the way you read it?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

That's not the way I read it, but I can see where you're coming from:

Give them a way of crawling back out of the abyss of darkness of fear over not having the health they need, and give them an opportunity, cause they don't have the right to health, but they have the right to access a chance to get that health.

Comes across as "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" rhetoric to me.

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