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Summary

A PRRI poll revealed 46% of Republican voters support using the U.S. military to detain undocumented immigrants in camps, a prospect pollster Robert P. Jones found alarming to survey.

While three-quarters of Americans oppose such measures, Jones expressed concern about the normalization of these discussions during the Trump era.

Axios highlighted Trump’s past remarks endorsing military action against undocumented immigrants and political opponents, raising fears about his potential policies in the 2024 election.

The data underscores growing divides over immigration enforcement and the use of military power domestically.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Why would you be surprised? Why are so many people really believing that there's some mythical good core of the Republican Party?

They're all Nazis. They supported a Nazi who wants to install himself as dictator for life. At this point, there are no excuses. Everyone who didn't want to be a Nazi had 8 years to leave the party. Everyone left is a fucking Nazi.

Stop expecting Nazis to have any morals.

[–] GroundedGator 16 points 2 days ago

And if anyone is offended by this comment, stop doing Nazi things.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why are tomatoes $11 each? What happened to all the lawn care companies? Why did Subway go out of business? This is all the Democrats fault!

-Republicans in 2027

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago

Why did half my family die in the Second Great Pandemic?

We all ate the apple tasting medicine like RFK Jr said!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah this is the thing. Those undocumented immigrants aren't watching TV collecting social benefits. They're grinding away doing the jobs no one else wants to do.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Public Religion Research Institute shows that 46 percent of Republican voters support using the United States military to round up immigrants and put them into camps.

At the same time, Jones expressed cautious optimism given that overall support for using the military to round up immigrants remains low for the time being.

Is 46% considered low? I mean anything above 0% is fucking monstrous.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago

46% of republicans, but close to 0% of non-republicans, so it's less than 46% overall support. But obviously one person in support is one too many.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're considering 26% to be low. There's 46% support for military round-ups and internment camps among Republican voters compared with 26% among all voters surveyed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

46% of a party that’s slightly less than 50% of Americans.

Still way too many.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

46 percent of maybe 20 percent, turnout and membership isn't anywhere near 100 and 50

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I always use the thirds rule, roughly a third of all voters are head in the sand Republicans. This is the MAGA crowd. Any time I see a survey about US politics, I look for anything beyond 33% to see what the "regular" Republicans represent. In this case, about 13% of regular Republicans would support the measure.

When I see polls like this gain ground beyond that third, that's when I know the MAGA message is starting to seep into the "regular" voter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

If a third of Republicans are the die-hard ones and 46% of Republicans support it, then the 13% excess over 33% is divided up between 2/3 of all Republicans ("regular" ones). So it's more like 20% of regular Republicans support it.

[–] PP_BOY_ 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

0% of anything is more often than not an indication of bad polling versus actual public opinion, but the poll shows that three-quarters of Americans don't support the idea. The 46% refers to Trump supporters specifically. A group within a group, and honestly is lower than I'd figure for Trumpists

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Always assume that at least 10% of polls are bullshit, from people not understanding the question, the poll, the answers, or people just screwing around, or intentionally choosing funny/ridiculous answers.

Poll question: do you believe in a deity

Poll answers: 1 yes there is a god 2 there are many gods 3 I believe in zorg the destroyer who will bring about universal chaos 4 no

Some people who would answer literally anything else are going to choose 3 simply for the lulz.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

It actually says 46% of republican voters, but I do get your point.

[–] Maggoty 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They also say 75% oppose it over all. That's all political identifications. The 46% number is Republicans only and likely the highest support number in the study. Another Headline would be Majority of Republicans Do Not Believe in Using Military for Law Enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

SLIM Majority of Republicans Do Not Believe in Using Military for Law Enforcement.

There. So slim.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 2 days ago

The point was to show the flaw in the thinking, not create a good faith headline.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I thought it'd be higher tbh

[–] Xanis 12 points 3 days ago

That's the danger: We already expect it to be higher and will sit back if it creeps up. All the while saying, "Yeah, that checks out."

[–] Treczoks 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just like Germany back in '33-'45. And it's PoC instead of Jews.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It was also PoC back then also, just very low on the priority list.

Wizard of Oz had a hard time casting for the Lollipop Guild because all of the lollipop deaths.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 17 points 2 days ago

Republicans love using force.

Cruelty is the point.

[–] frunch 29 points 3 days ago

Robert P. Jones, president and founder of PRRI, told Axios that he felt uneasy about simply having to survey voters about their support for rounding up immigrants and putting them into military-run camps in the first place.

That pretty much sums up modern America, right? "I can't believe I'm asking this" must be the mantra for reporters these days

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Question about the numbers generated. As i understand it, ~50% of republican voters were in favour of the measure where republicans make up one third of the population. So this means 15% of the US population is in favour of the measure? Is that right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you polled 1941 Germans about whether they support death camps for "undesirables" you might have gotten similar numbers but they still wouldn't do anything to stop it when it happens.

This is enough popular support within a ruling party with control of all branches of government to do it. What percentage of the people who don't support it would be willing to abandon the party if they enacted it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

There are always a few independent and Democrat voters who also support it. Not many, but you'll always find a few. Article says around 75% are against it overall.

[–] SpaceNoodle 13 points 3 days ago

Oh, it's not The Onion.

[–] Maggoty 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, There have been many many warnings about this over the years but people don't seem to want to listen. Politicians just want to campaign and there's no room for the designated loser in a campaign. Nobody in power is trying to protect them anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Sadly, these figures don't surprise me.

[–] JeeBaiChow 3 points 3 days ago

Well good thing they want to shut down Guantanamo then! /s