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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/23718803

Summary

The Taliban have banned windows in homes that allow views of areas where Afghan women might be seen, citing concerns over "obscene acts."

This new decree mandates blocking or obstructing such windows in existing and new buildings, continuing the group's systemic repression of women since regaining control of Afghanistan in August 2021.

The Taliban's policies have included bans on women's education, public appearances, and voices.

Critics, including the U.N., warn these actions dangerously erode human rights, while activists call out global inaction over the ongoing oppression.

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[–] Agent641 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're called the Taliban, not the Taliallow

[–] DerArzt 2 points 2 days ago

Fuck it, have the upvote

[–] SocialMediaRefugee 11 points 3 days ago

It would be much easier if they blindfolded men.

[–] StopTouchingYourPhone 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To stop women from being able to see out. Isolation is torture. One less escape route.

This shit is terrifying.

[–] frostysauce 5 points 3 days ago

Jesus fucking Christ. I hadn't considered that.

[–] visnae 26 points 3 days ago

The Talibans are soo gay they don't even want to know about the existence of women.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They should probably just ban women outright until they learn how to live beside women responsibly

[–] Lost_My_Mind 41 points 5 days ago (9 children)

I REALLY want to find an arab woman who's lived under taliban rule, but also speaks english. I really want to ask her a hypothetical question.

I live in America. I see naked women quite frequently. I live in a society where I've literally gone in public, and seen women wearing a thong bikini, basically made of dental floss, and no top.

The logic of the taliban is that women cannot reveal their bodies to men, or it will FORCE the men to abuse and rape the women. I have frequently been in the presense of naked and near naked women. I am a man. I have never beat or raped a woman.

So I want to ask a woman who's had experience first hand living with the taliban.

Would you feel safer living naked with me everyday? Or fully clothed everyday with the taliban?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People in Afghanistan aren't Arabs; they're Afghans. They notably don't speak Arabic.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

:O

My mistake. I legit thought they did.

Soooooooo, what do they speak?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

from a quick glance at Wikipedia, the official languages are Dari and Pashto, spoken by 75% and 48% of the population respectively, but many other languages are also spoken

Arabic is only spoken by 1% of the Afghani population, which is less than English (6%)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Great idea .... just get them to export all the women, then when they want children, ship their semen over, artificially inseminate the women, keep female children, send male children after a few years old to live in Afghanistan with their all male family. Just ban women completely from the country.

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[–] madcaesar 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The treatment of women in these Islamofascist dictatorships is our version of the holocaust and we're all just sitting by and watching.

I don't know what we could even do, but I'm always filled with so much sadness thinking about the women and girls in those countries.

Fuck religion and every preacher scheister spreading that shit.

[–] LovableSidekick 6 points 3 days ago

"My invisible friend in the sky is better than yours !!!"

[–] Snowclone 5 points 3 days ago

Christo-faschists in the US are gonna control every part of our goverment and they want women losing the rights to have a period without government intervention.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Why don't they just blind all the men who can't control themselves?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee 2 points 3 days ago

Duct tape over their eyes should save them from their uncontrollable, sinful, urges.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That was never taken literally by christians, where Jesus is god incarnate, why would ever work for islam where he is just considered a prophet.

[–] AugustWest 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Convenient that the parables and commands suggesting persecution of those different than yourself must be taken literally, but when Jesus says something that impacts you directly, suddenly he’s a master of metaphor.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I call it Quantum superposition Jesus, or Schrödinger's Messiah.

To be fair, the stuff "mandating" persecution are mostly weird interpretations to justify agenda of a later imperial church. When being honest with the author intent and reading stuff in context, it's never the case. And don't get me started with modern "bible study" that ultimately leads to the current state of the far right and zionist apartheid support.

The few things I have parsed from the Quran, I think is not the same case. That thing was straight up written to justify holy war.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Taliban bringing the year of the Linux desktop closer wasn't on my bingo card.

Jokes, but I'm surprised how these misogynistic shitheads can reproduce with how they are afraid of women.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (5 children)

They re not afraid of using women as domestic appliances for reproduction and housekeeping, because they are objects, property. They have problems with other men eyeing their property.

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[–] kautau 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] GreenAppleTree 17 points 4 days ago

year of the Linux desktop

I saw the headline and was like, "well the Lemmy crowd would love this". One half loves authoritarian regimes, the other half hates windows.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Seriously, what is the point of trying to control women this way? Or really in any matter? I've never understood it. Are people really that scared and threatened by women? What is the end game for people who do things like this?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Individually, they’re probably racing for social status by demonstrating more extreme versions of the existing set of rules.

It’s a common thing in human cultures to gain social status by exemplifying a more extreme version of whatever the social norm is.

In this case, the norm got established as “special niche for women” and now it’s a runaway process of status-seeking.

Kinda like peacocks and their feathers. Instead of sexual selection in the case of peacocks, this is social selection as men compete for higher and higher status by having more and more ridiculous displays of “look how well I embody this control women rule”.

So it’s not like they’re trying to engineer some specific social benefit. That is, ostensibly, the reasoning. But in actuality, each man who proposes or backs and further encroachment on the women is doing so for his own selfish gain: in the form of social status.

Kinda like there’s no utilitarian value to having ridiculously huge hats, but a person in a culture where big hats signal status can gain prestige by putting on a bigger hat.

This is social status seeking, in the form of purity demonstration.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Thanks, that helps me understand it better. In my head I was comparing it to systems like apartheid. Which with apartheid there are clear economic benefits for the oppressors. Like cheap/slave labor and by having more opportunities than others. I'm not saying I agree with any of that, but I see why people would do it. But with the Taliban being such a part a patriarchal society to begin with, you would think at some point the oppression would have negative impacts on the oppressors. Of course, there I go trying to apply logic and reasoning for hatred and oppression.

I think the peacock comparison you made is perfect. I still can't comprehend how anyone could belittle another person to make themselves feel better, but it tracks. Thanks for the great response.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yup. In any group you'll always have those who seek status by being more extreme than the rest. Others in the group feed this by giving them their applause and attention. You see this in even something as trivial as a shared interest groups like hiking or biking. Here the Taliban making this decision (and not all of them want this) are showing they are "more devout and better Muslims than the rest" and also trying to justify their positions.

It is also a good way to deflect attention from the fact that the economy is shit and the Taliban have been lousy rulers.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee 3 points 3 days ago

One way to win support is to pit one group against another. It makes them (the ones on top) feel good and deflects attention from those in charge. Here the woman are used to being treated poorly and many of them even aid in their own oppression. "This is the way it has always been."

[–] pachrist 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Really glad that they solved so many problems that peeping toms are now the biggest problem in the country. That's what's happening here, right?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

Reminds me if that weird movie the film professor made us watch. Where the guy see the girls ankle because if the wind and then chases her down to rape her. I don't understand wtf this was for but I strongly suggest porn to desensitize if this is the alternative.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Okay my first thought this is Microsoft Windows, and was very confused how people can be seen though a OS. And I later convinced myself maybe this is about Zoom calls.

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[–] flemtone 7 points 3 days ago

How backwards and idiotic a religion can become.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They all have Android-Smartphones and access to Porn. What does Windows have to do with it?

/s

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

What “obscene acts” are they referring to? Are they afraid someone might see a woman reading a book?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They are afraid a man seeing a woman will cause him to rape her.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (6 children)

By that logic every sauna should be a rape orgy. Turns out, that's not the problem. But what can you expect from a religion with a „She asked for it“ mindset.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago

LOL, how about just move back to caves

[–] SocialMediaRefugee 2 points 3 days ago

I wonder how much more they can isolate woman. Next up, woman must be sealed in jars.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee 2 points 3 days ago

So basically you can't have windows in any building in an urban area because you can draw a line of sight to some place where woman are.

[–] Harvey656 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are they going to ban women breathing next?

[–] LordBucaq 5 points 4 days ago

I think their point is to kill al women so they have reason to be openly gay or just fuck goats.

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