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Taliban bringing the year of the Linux desktop closer wasn't on my bingo card.
Jokes, but I'm surprised how these misogynistic shitheads can reproduce with how they are afraid of women.
The answer is rape
Weak men bring sick times.
I saw the headline and was like, "well the Lemmy crowd would love this". One half loves authoritarian regimes, the other half hates windows.
They re not afraid of using women as domestic appliances for reproduction and housekeeping, because they are objects, property. They have problems with other men eyeing their property.
You are correct, but I will never understand how they can see their own mother like this. Who thinks of their mom as an appliance?
Those men will never be loved. Just a bunch of deeply damaged psychopaths.
Well, in your last bit I think you got how. People with little to none emotional bonding, affection and contact, tend to develop psychopathic or at least sociopathic disorders.
My country has never been on that level of misogyny and male dominance, but my dad generation and my grandpa generation were respectively worse than today in terms of women being the house servant, and motherly love and affection was looked down because of the idea it would soften the boys and make them gay or effeminate, too soft to be real men in the future. From young age they learned about your mother and sisters being the ones that occupy themselves with house chores and you are not expected to even learn how to do anything. Males are the ones that bring money, thus deserve to be served.
I see how, in a more extreme setting, your mother is not really more than a human incubator and servant. You had no human contact with her or developed any kind of bond.
I have read about multiple discussions regarding generations after WW2 (Germany) getting too "Soft" because all the men were dead and the sons only raised by mothers. Those discussions were of course.... held by the surviving men.
There is a long tradition of how eastern society functions and how women see themselfes in it, BUUUUUUT
Talibs overtook a country modeled after european states with two decades of gender equality and stuff, and them undoing it is not a return to tradition but self-inflicted barbarism to please 50% sausage havers.
I remember a similar thread about this: The European model stuff only happend in a very limited area (cities) while most of the rural country was, is, are, have been the clans now known as "Taliban"... which got literally weaponized by the US during the cold war.
I don't remember the details but that's what I think to know about that subject. (I never watched Rambo 2 /s)
A lot of these stories are thinly sourced and heavily embellished. Any time you read "Enemy county on other side of world does extremely bizarre thing to entire population" headline, take it with an enormous grain of salt.
American tabloid media loves to lie, in order to help justify past and future military conflicts and to stir up hostility against foreign populations.
It's the same hysterical bullshit we saw in the US, with Trump insisting Haitian immigrants were eating dogs and cats.
Are you suggesting they are manufacturing consent? In my American media?
Yet, Talibs are idiots covering their bigotry under their religion like many in the middle east do.
They're a reactionary response to foreign occupation, like white blood cells flooding your system to stave off a deadly infection. Had the English, the Russians, or the Americans approached Afghans peacefully and equitably, rather than charging in guns blazing time after time, you might not see these militant rejections of western culture.
But for whatever reason, Americans simply cannot grasp why a foreign nation would rise up in violent rebellion against a military that systematically kidnaps and rapes local children.
You take away their agency and their choice to create a backwards society. We can thank americans for creating a disfunctional corrupt house of cards that felt apart once they left, pepper it with their many crimes, but both Talibs in 2001 and Talibs in 2021 were to pack women in trash bags and make spotty readings of Quran the law once they get a chance. Probably, in coming decades, we'd see how they outlive the influence of murricans and their own overcompensation for that, but I just can't see how that clique can create anything but conservative manocentric shithole with only variable being if they do or don't become the worlds first opioid farm.
Not merely a corrupt and dysfunctional state, but a narco-trafficking cartel. The Taliban's war on the US occupation is fundamentally a Drug War against local cartel bosses spearheaded by a radical ideological movement. Its the same radical ideology that powered Indochinese Maoists during the 20th century and Prohibitionist/Abolitionist Americans during the 18th century.
The strict religious ideology of the Taliban is pitted against the rampant lawless violence and sexual abuse popular among the Northern Alliance cartels that the US has been supporting since the 1970s. It's not entirely unlike the shitty American Two-Party System. Your options are far-right religious zealotry or shameless money obsessed corporate sellouts. Except, instead of playing tug-of-war at the ballot box, they're outright bombing and shelling one another.
Very hard to talk about the Taliban without talking about how much of the country was obliterated by American marines and artillery for the crime of living in proximity of a Taliban sympathist or ideologue.
How many women were torn to shreds by shrapnel or immolated in the flames of a fuel bomb? How many starved to death under siege or were kidnapped as spoils of war by mercenaries? How many became insurgents themselves, after watching family, friends, and loved ones butchered or press-ganged into the poppy fields by occupying armies?
The final stroke by the departing American army was to walk away with the nation's foreign currency reserves and plunge eastern end of the country into the same famine that had plagued the west for decades. Now the only place Afghanis can turn for outside aid is like-minded Islamists in Pakistan and Turkmenistan or the secularists across the border in Communist China.
The "best" you can hope for in this scenario is Afghanistan aligning with America's largest geopolitical rivals.
Asking why Afghanis would submit to Taliban rule really ignores how the Taliban managed to preserver and recover a popular mandate after twenty years of US occupation. In this case, they were literally the lesser of two evils. But how much evil can the country endure over the long term? Idk. That's what really remains to be seen.
In the end, we could be looking at a mass depopulation event like what we've seen across North Africa, the Levant, and the Saudi Peninsula.