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This new bill, signed into law by President Joe Biden, includes a provision that limits access to gender-affirming care services for the children of people serving in the military.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Democrats say the American public doesn't need the 2nd amendment anymore, but here they are proving to your face that when push comes to shove, no one will be coming to help you when your lawn has a mob of 61 MAGA coming to lynch you for whatever delusional reason they manufacture.

We are on our own.

SocialistRA.org


You're gonna die of old age soon biden, but your garbage legacy will linger forever in the history books like shitting on the pages and slamming the book shut.

A cowardly empty shell of a man to the bitter end.

Enjoy hell you piece of shit.

[–] kreskin 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Agreed.

Biden's legcy will be bringing a bit of the Israelis geniocidal hatreds home to rot the core of the US. Enshitifying the western world order and democracy itself with the same pathetic "bipartisanship" centrism and selling out that has defined his entire career and been a plague on all of us. An old white bigot with no relevance, intent on sitting in a chair that was always too big for him. At best he was not Trump. And thats about all he will be remembered for.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

With allies like these on Lemmy who the fuck needs enemies. So anytime we want to throw trans people under the bus just add it to a funding bill? Would y'all be singing the same tune if these provisions targeted gay people? Black? Jewish? At what point does an anti trans law cross the line for y'all? How many rights do we have to lose before you'll speak up?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

I mean, they've already signed off on wholesale genocide, it's pretty clear they have no lines left to cross.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

Bro... the genocide. All lines have not only been crossed but erased forever as the Democrats ratchet the USA to the right.

[–] Shardikprime 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This guy was everyone's hope?

[–] kreskin 4 points 7 hours ago

I despised him before it was cool. So yay me I suppose.

[–] Phegan 10 points 12 hours ago

Joe Biden over here complying in advance.

[–] CharlesDarwin 23 points 15 hours ago

Well, with the incoming terrorists that will be running things in a few weeks, brace for a lot more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Ha, us fools are so blind. It really is both sides, and we've all been bamboozled.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 21 hours ago (10 children)

They start with the weakest and most vulnerable and then they work their way out to the rest of us.

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[–] [email protected] 190 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

The bill just "includes" the provision? Nobody put it there, it's just that new language often spontaneously erupts in a piece of legislation?

And why the vague language of "limits access to gender-affirming care services". What's actually in the bill is no more complex and a lot more clear. Are psychological gender-affirming services still available? Yep. Are puberty blocking drugs still covered? Yep. All that's blocked is coverage for procedures that might result in sterilization - procedures that are already not generally done on minors who arguably aren't yet capable of giving proper consent.

Tell the whole story or GTFO. Debating Biden's complicity is fine, but don't skip the Republican's role with the passive voice like you're CNN describing how more violence just "erupted" in Gaza. Don't hide what's actually in the bill and potentially cause trans kids to not bother seeking medical services because they were misled by your hack politics.

This is not legitimate outrage at the legislation. If it were, you wouldn't have left out the main protagonists, what's actually in the legislation, and the entire story. It's just mastebetory outrage bait meant to divide the left which is (surprise) the entire reason Republicans forced the issue to begin with.

If you're not already a right wing troll, you should go find the people who pay money for posting this kind of garbage.

[–] Emerald 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

All that’s blocked is coverage for procedures that might result in sterilization - procedures that are already not generally done on minors who arguably aren’t yet capable of giving proper consent.

Not true. HRT is prescribed to trans minors frequently. Otherwise their bones would be fucked, as you can't safely live on just blockers for many years. And HRT can cause sterilization.

[–] Omegamanthethird 37 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

All that's blocked is coverage for procedures that might result in sterilization - procedures that are already not generally done on minors who arguably aren't yet capable of giving proper consent.

I've been upset about restricting care. But if what you're saying is true, then it's VERY different from how it's been portrayed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's because IT'S NOT TRUE. Procedures "that could result in sterilization" could apply to anything the controlling administration wants it to apply to. It's rare and is influenced by long-term usage, but at least some scientists believe HRT can result in sterilization. And the UK just banned new prescriptions for puberty blockers for trans kids only because they have a shitty report that says the science isn't settled about side effects and it could (they claim) result in sterilization. And we can point out that's not true and it's extremely safe and 99 out of 100 doctors agree, but they'll give the 1 doctor a megaphone and say as long as it's not clear we need to ban them.

These fucking minimizers always more worried about outrage being faked than the harms being caused. "Hey, black people, stop with this 'masturbatory outrage' they're just going to give you your own separate but equal facilities."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

The reporting has been mixed on the language around sterilization, but the more detailed coverage describes the restrictions that way. Other coverage just says things like "coverage restrictions on some gender affirming care". In any case, I expect Republicans to make the deal worse over time if they can.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is who he is, a pushover.

[–] NikkiDimes 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's pretty well known that the democrats do not have spines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

That and how many campaigned as transphobic this election?

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