Probably more fear from seeing how the public at large has reacted.
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“There are reports that girls are fawning over this guy. This level of notoriety risks triggering copycats. And let’s face it, some business leaders are ~~vulnerable~~ complete fucking ass bags”
Fixed that for em
If somebody's got the itch and just has to go shoot up something this is a way, way better thing to copycat than school shooters.
Amazing how we all can agree on this one simple thing....
Clean denial of claim to life to executives is socially acceptable
Signs around NYC.
Wow, I really feel like I should be clutching my pearls over the fact that this is what it's come to.
On the other hand...
Just like cops, these folks have earned every bit of hatred coming to them from the public. Even now they continue to pad their own bank account at a staggering rate on the deaths and misery of their fellow man.
If I were a healthcare executive with a conscience (lol I know), or even a healthcare executive with an adequate fear response, I'd resign tomorrow. (Or maybe yesterday?) I guarantee any of these folks has enough wealth to exceed the typical US lifestyle for the rest of their natural lives without having to take any more money for denying care to their fellow citizens. They can pack their shit, never work another day, and still spend the rest of their lives with less stress and greater financial security than my family ever will. There's literally nothing stopping them.
And if their "Type A" personality just can't let them spend multiple decades of their lives just relaxing with their family and enriching their inner self, they have a great resume to get a job at an industry that doesn't profit from the death and pain of their fellow citizens.
this is good more of this please
Also add Elon, please.
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Quality work
Hahahah this is amazing.
"forcing leaders to ask themselves uncomfortable questions about their own preparedness for a threat landscape that appears far more serious than many realized just a week ago."
It's probably even more serious than they think it is right now too.
In fact, all I see are talks of securing these executives. And as the article points out, security is a sunk cost. There is no financial gain. That means as security gets more expensive, they will have to weigh how to afford it versus the problems they cause.
Fear isn't the word I think we want though, fear seems too normal. Terror sounds closer to what they likely need to feel before things get better.
This is exactly my thought. C-levels are going to want competent security and not Rent A Cops, which costs. Companies which provide those services already charge a decent chunk of change for it, and the rates will likely go through the roof now. Additionally, I think they'll find that these "security consultants" will suggest absolutely unacceptable lifestyle changes for them to minimize areas of concern. Much easier to secure a house than a whole nightclub, or golf course.
Also, I am assuming a lot of grade A security are SOF types who fought in two stupid wars on behalf of owner class.
Makes you wonder how a person like that would feel about a dead parasite him or her self
Hmmm
Would they really care to take a bullet for a parasite?
There is really no way to tell, sadly.
The public reaction is what scares them. They are entirely disconnected from the consequences their actions impose on the public and can't imagine why their "customers" would be cheering the death of their peer. They don't think Brian Thompson did anything wrong, maximizing shareholder value is a noble goal after all, so from their perspective the public just seems bloodthirsty.
Much like how DC politicians live in a bubble where they think everyone in the US has grocery options and plentiful healthcare (due to how business around DC structures these things so those "leaders" just assume all of the US is like DC), the C suite lives in a tone-deaf rich-person bubble with zero comprehension about what it is like to actually live in the shitty world they orchestrate and manipulate.
Reading some guff about the Kroger-Albertsons attempted merger was case in point. These corpos said: "Oh, if we don't merge, we can't compete against Walmart and Amazon, and we'll have to close stores." Like, no? What business goes, "hey, so we can't compete with adjacent-market companies, time to close up the places that generate our revenue!"
Or the recent Congressional vote to spend THREE BILLION OF OUR DOLLARS paying telecom companies to remove Chinese hardware from their networks. Something they were told to do years ago. The same carriers that will continue to raise our service rates every few months are making us (via Congress) pay them OUR money to do what they should have done themselves years ago.
None of these morons get it, they just keep corrupting their way to profits off of our backs, while digging out the ground we stand on from underneath us.
That's the thing, healthcare parasites are just the tip of the iceberg here...
Got to resolve health first but so much work done done.
All oligopolies operate like health parasites, they ruin quality of life while looting us like a piggy bank.
Reminds me of finding out the taco bell executive used the phrase 'thinking outside the bun' in the I actual work correspondences.
To function in a big huge corporate c-suite level you must drink the cool-aid.
Are we not?
I am.
Good, good.
so they're going to spend a whole bunch of the companies money on security firms, it's definitely going to come out of the executive compensation and not the workers, right? .....right?
I don't dn't see how that's profitable. If I were on the board I would just make sure their life insurance was paid up. Management is completely disposable. If they die, then you just get a new one, plus the insurance payout.
I'm sure most shareholders would agree with you.
The trouble is that most shareholders own their shares through mutual funds in their retirement accounts, and those shares get voted by the fund managers at Vanguard/Black Rock/Fidelity/etc. Those people definitely are part of the good ol' boys club and will definitely vote in the executives' interest and against their clients'.
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Good
I'm pretty sure that was part of the point.
Legally, the murder was wrong. Full stop. There's no legal argument here that it wasn't. It may not have been the guy they caught, but someone was murdered and legally that's wrong.
Morally though, it's a lot more gray. It's pretty easy to prove that health insurers policies have literally been killing people thousands of people a year at at a minimum and even if it's legal for some reason, that's also still morally wrong. Attacking someone who's attacking other people is usually called defending.
The CEO was on his way to implement policies that would kill thousands of people, and injure tens of thousands.
I see no moral gray area.
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Legally, the murder was wrong. Full stop.
¡Hey Buddy! That's for a jury to decide
Not really. The jury will decide if this particular person is guilty or not, but either way a man was murderer and that's an illegal action by whomever did it.
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If you listen to the news segment, it talks about security completely and not about chnaging the corporate zeitgeist around the priority balance between workers, customers, and shareholders.
Hear that whooshing sound?
The revolution will not be televised
It's sort of funny. All they are going to do is isolate the bastards into doing even more corrupt shit.
They really refuse to believe that the first part of finding out, is fucking around.
The more they fuck around and put profit ahead of everything, the more finding out I imagine is going to occur.
Right? No introspection at all. I doubt the C-suite of Patagonia sees a need to increase security.
People creating barbaric conditions are afraid of barbarians?
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