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[–] agent_nycto 53 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

A "manifesto" that starts off by saying that he respects the feds

🤔🧐

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

even the cops couldn't keep character

[–] Telodzrum 18 points 15 hours ago

It matches everything else about him that he would love cops. This guy wasn’t a leftist. Hell, his manifesto was only 262 words, you ever seen a leftist explain something so succinctly?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If this is a joke

Yeah Luigi was with me backpacking last week, can’t have been him.

If you’re serious, learn how cameras and lighting works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

I call bullshit. We were white water rafting that day.

[–] Hikermick 6 points 12 hours ago
[–] answersplease77 86 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

If the brows don't mix the jury must aquit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

If the brows don't fit, the jury must aquit?

[–] Hikermick 4 points 12 hours ago
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like reasonable doubt.

[–] LordCrom 3 points 10 hours ago

That's the key phrase. It raises doubt. Is the person being tried and the shooter the same person. If a jury sees this, they should doubt

[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Either the first photo we got of the Adjuster was a ruse to throw us off, or they coughed up a patsy.

It gives me hope if the real Adjuster is still out there, but a show trial is never fun.

[–] [email protected] 217 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The Adjuster pulls off a nearly flawless hit in the heart of NYC and disappears, then some guy gets caught at a McDonald’s with the murder weapon, fake IDs that he supposedly already used, and a fucking manifesto in his bag. The pictures of the shooter show completely inconsistent eyebrows with the guy they arrested. The nose is suspect as well.

This guy is a patsy. That’s why he was yelling about “insulting the intelligence” of the people. And yet, those who consume news slop uncritically will buy it without even questioning it. They’ll call people who look at valid, publicly-released pictures and see what is obviously two different people crazy. This is modern day, corpo-feudalist America.

The media is owned. The narrative is owned. Challenging the status quo is not allowed.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So the whole "perfect crime" I don't get.
They tracked a lot of his movement via street cameras by now, so while he did a really good job, he's also not infallible. He left behind his backpack with a jacket and the monopoply money which is hilarious but incredibly risky. They did also pull some trash and a phone he may have dropped right?
there's also a world where maybe he's either a rich kid with a sense of self-righteousness and just wants to get his manifesto out, OR where he's a bumbling idiot, or mentally unstable even, which would lead to irrationable moves like keeping the suppressor and gun on him.
There are so many variables to this, it's silly to immediately put on the tinfoil hat.

See what develops, see the facts present themselves as this goes on, and draw a logical conclusion once there's enough.

[–] shneancy 30 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

why would he walk around with the everything cops need to arrest and convict him though? the crime was clean, is the same person who committed a clean and well planned crime going to be walking around with the murder weapon and a manifesto placing him both at the crime scene and giving him a clear motive?

few days ago i said "someone will be arrested and tried for this, will it be the person who actually did it, or someone who has the misfortune of looking kinda like the guy". so far it seems it's someone who got unlucky because, quite frankly, the evidence seems made up

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Thats what i mean, we just don't know. I want to believe that he's not the guy but i won't act like its a fact.

Could be that he wanted to get the evidence out of town to dispose it. Could be that hes a dummy. Could be that police is planting it all on a rando that some grampa called in.

We dont fuckin know.

[–] agent_nycto 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Dude allegedly went to Georgia then up to Pa and never ditched the gun anywhere and wore the same exact clothes and didn't buy a different jacket with the cash he had on hand?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Also didn't they find the jacket with the decoy bag?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago

"We have nothing pls help"
"JK we found him and he has all the evidence with him. Investigation over"
🧐

[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm right there with you. It's too fucking perfect of a story for it to be true. What else did they find in his bag? Nuclear launch codes?

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago

Copies of SIMS 3?

[–] baldingpudenda 23 points 1 day ago

Police aint gonna release the snitch's name and then say they aren't gonna pay either. Was there ever a snitch?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Look, if the guy had a manifesto, the gun and all - don't you think he wanted to get caught? Told the mcd employee to call him in, and sit till they showed up?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why flee the scene of the crime then? Or why not go to any of the hundreds of police stations between there and NYC? It’s just so odd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

To let the message spread? To show off?

I don't know - but neither does anyone here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I prefer being ignorant for the sake of sanity and comfort. Also you are challenging the status quo right now, no?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

well lemmy with it's existence basically challenges the status quo. seeing as it is only run by donations and volunteers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

So challenging the status quo is allowed, then.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I'm just guessing here, but the left image looks both low red and out of focus while the right one in much higher red and much more in focus, so it could be that the little bit of hair on his brow just doesn't show up well on the CCTV and that's why it looks like he has more monobrow hair on the right. I'm not dismissing the possibility that he's a different person completely, but if I go with an Occam's razor though process, I'm inclined to lean in the direction of it being a visual thing with the camera+lighting+environment difference rather than being a completely different (but similar looking) person with a weapon like the one used in the shooting and a manefesto and the same style of face mask, ect.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago

with a weapon like the one used in the shooting and a manefesto and the same style of face mask, ect.

All of that could of been planted evidence. Personally I think this could be legit or could be a patsy. I’m 50/50 on it. The back story of a (relatively) rich kid (petit bourgeoisie?) going class traitor because of his personal experiences with the system - pain is a major motivator - is compelling. It’s believable that even the privileged are suffering under our insane healthcare system.

At the same time, the hit was clearly skilled. The intelligence it took to find the CEO in the right place and time. The ability to shoot accurately, calmly, even when the weapon isn’t working as intended is a skill that requires practice. The ability to get away from the hit cleanly on a bike and evade the Orwellian surveillance system that is NYC and disappear into the abyss for a nearly a week.

All to get caught with all the evidence on him at a random McDonald’s in bumble fuck PA and acting strange enough to get caught?

All that planning to get the hit and get out of it but no planning about what comes next? I find that really hard to believe. And while the arrested’s backstory is compelling, is it not that hard to find a someone in similar circumstances in America these days to pin it on?

And then things get even weirder. He has family ties with Nancy Pelosi. In a country of 330 million, and someone finally pops a member of the elite, what are the chances that the shooter has ties to Pelosi?! I know that sounds like a crazy right wing conspiracy theory but there’s evidence that points to it being true. Maybe it’s just an odd coincidence.

Maybe the guy didn’t expect to make it out of this alive and didn’t plan for what comes next. Or maybe the shooter is still out on the loose and this is just a (oddly well connected) fall guy to quell the elites fears and make the public forget this ever happened. I’m surprised he was taken alive.

[–] Dasus 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I have eyebrows which I can make look like almost a mono brow if the picture is a closeup and sharp.

But if someone takes a photo of me from an upwards direction a bit further away and lower res, it doesn't look like my eyebrows are even growing together.

But obviously here it isn't the same person as I was playing poker with Luigi all night and will vouch for his alibi.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

i don't think it's a national conspiracy. we'll see how things play out

[–] ComradeMiao 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TheBat 23 points 23 hours ago (3 children)
[–] jaybone 11 points 17 hours ago

How can our eyes be real if our brows aren’t real?

[–] Opisek 10 points 22 hours ago

I refuse to believe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh, the 'ole Lemmy switcheroo!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Hold my brows, I'm going in!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 19 hours ago

completely different. in the right pic, he looks like a random guy. in the left pic, he looks like a freshly peeled cockroach trying to hide that with all that clothing. people cant change clothes, and people cant change skin colors!!! and what is lighting conditions and camera quality anyway? never heard of those